[Noisebridge-discuss] Fundraiser at Cellspace October 9th

[Paul Böhm]

just saying that i agree extremely strongly with grey's mention of the
mantra "don't solve problems before they arise".
i don't know a single space which didn't have the same concerns before
doing anything new (including parties) - at metalab ppl wanted to bar
all the windows for fear of the outside world, and if we hadn't
invoked that mantra it would have happened (no problems with ppl
smashing windows intentionally so far).

you just can't predict what's gonna happen, and one reason i love
hackerspaces is because they generally err on the side of
experimenting instead of fear.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:14 PM, grey <artkiver at gmail.com> wrote:
> Just to chime in and since I'll be at Symbiosis on Sunday and won't be able
> to attending any meeting on this subject.  I'd echo what someone else here
> mentioned.  One of the original goals of Noisebridge before we even had a
> space was to have a space in which -throw- fund raising parties, following
> e.g. C-Base or metalab's models.  It seems that we finally have some room
> for it at 2169, and we're already *paying* for it as opposed to potential
> costs in renting other venues.  I know Cellspace has been mentioned
> repeatedly in the past, but the goal of finding an outside space to do it
> was before we even had a lease signed for anything but 83c.
> The logistics of organizing are a complicated business regardless of the
> location, and I'm happy to help with setup/teardown/etc.  But I will say
> that I've put on events at spaces smaller than 2169 (and probably even
> smaller 83c a few times).  Really depends what you're aiming for.  But if
> you take the space we have as a constraint, it's totally doable.  Maybe our
> existing sound system is wanting, but I can bring my CDJ's and ttm57sl and
> I'm sure I could convince at least one of several friends who have better
> speakers/subs/etc. gear to bring it by for an evening.
> Again though, certain things say C-base does (e.g. use of lockers by
> members) facilitate themselves better to lots of guests for such an evening.
>  With 83c we just went with shelving, but I see no reason why we can't
> evolve in many more directions beyond just having a new larger physical
> location.  Whether it's better protection for membership equipment for those
> who think it's necessary or better equipment to facilitate social
> gatherings.
> I repeatedly see people on this list fretting about what people *might* do
> to damage things, or earlier in this thread mention displeasure about what
> they witnessed someone doing.  Haven't we already drilled the mantra of not
> solving problems before they arise through everyone's head?  And if there is
> a problem - empower yourselves people!  Preventative measures are one thing,
> but can only go so far.  When it comes down to it if you see someone doing
> something that you think is doing harm, step in and -do- something about it!
> Anyway, I'm all in favour of fundraising parties; it's something we'd
> intended before we even had a name for noisebridge.  It's my preference that
> we host them ourselves now that it seems more likely that we can, but
> barring that, definitely cooperating with others rather than expending money
> to throw an event is the way to go.  I've seen far too many friends lose
> swaths of money in throwing events, which for them was fine as a labor of
> love.  But in this case it's a labor of utility, and there are ways to
> exhibit shrewd financial acumen and still engender community and
> cooperation.
> -grey
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