[Noisebridge-discuss] Laser Cutter!

Tue Sep 29 09:30:08 UTC 2009

I would like a tool that was a tool and not a project in it's own  
right. We have plenty of those.
M

Drawing stuff and making things

On Sep 29, 2009, at 1:28 AM, Michael Prados <mprados at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think part of the story on fumes we're missing here is the filter,
> which I don't remember encountering on the machines I've used.  Here
> are a couple of options:
>
> http://www.electrocorp.net/market/laser_engraving.html
>
> http://www.laserfilter.com/
>
> Not sure how effective these are, but the second one does mention both
> wood and acrylic.  I would suppose there is some kind of tradeoff
> between investing in awesome ductwork and fans and great filtering.
> Of course the filter is another maintenance issue.
>
> -mike
>
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Mark Cohen <markc at binaryfaith.com>  
> wrote:
>>
>> Not to flog a deceased equine, but a real world example. There is  
>> this
>> great company that laser etched moleskine notebooks called modofly.  
>> (http://lifehacker.com/392041/modofly-laser+etched-moleskine-notebooks
>> ) On their site : http://66.116.156.9/blogger.php?paged=2 near the
>> bottom, it reads.
>>
>> "Modofly is Back!
>>
>> After a hiatus due to bad chemicals occurring in the burning of
>> Moleskines, we are back with our own designed book! Our new book is a
>> front to back color delight! We are happy to say that we can now
>> showcase art from the artists much better. We also have the ability  
>> to
>> do one off customs in a way we used to not be able to feasibly do.
>> Check out the custom button on the navigation bar.
>>
>> We have an amazing collection of artists working with us now, and it
>> grows almost daily. We have (or will be uploading soon) artwork from
>> Camilla d’Errico, Jason Limon, Travis Louie, Matt Cipov, Dan Hilli 
>> er,
>> Marc Gabanna, Keith Thompson, Stephen Rothwell, Doktor A, and many
>> many more. Come check it out!
>>
>> We print our books on demand which takes a touch longer on shipping,
>> but allows us to give you such a wide selection of great artwork from
>> artists around the globe. Do you have art you would love to see on  
>> our
>> books? Do you know of someone we should be working with? Go to our
>> contact tab on the navigation bar, and shoot us an email. Even if we
>> can’t currently use your work, getting your own work is pretty ea 
>> sy,
>> and if you are an artist, company, or marketing firm that wants to  
>> get
>> over 20 books, contact us as we offer price breaks.
>>
>> Are you a store looking for unique merchandise? Do you know of a  
>> store
>> we should be in? Please contact us if you are interested in selling
>> our books, or know of a store that we should talk to.
>>
>> Do you run an art gallery, or do you frequently curate shows? Talk to
>> us. We can help you get set up with books to sell with the artists
>> that you are showing or will be showing.
>>
>> We currently have ruled books ready to go and should have our sketch
>> books here in about 3 weeks, but they are ready for pre-order, so  
>> line
>> up!"
>>
>>
>> I happen to have one of their original laser etched books and I  
>> wish I
>> had gotten more, they were AWESOME.. But I'd rather have living
>> artists making book, not dead artists.
>>
>> Just my .02.. If/when we get a laser etch/cutter ventilation is a
>> HUGELY important thing..
>>
>> /Mark/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 28, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Rachel McConnell wrote:
>>
>>> Ventilation important b/c some of the materials it can cut  
>>> vaporize to
>>> Nastiness that we don't want people to breathe.  We should make sure
>>> to
>>> have a force ventilator that vents out a window or through the HVAC
>>> system (once that's installed).  Ideally it should live in a room of
>>> its
>>> own, although that may be difficult.  It should absolutely not go in
>>> the
>>> dirty shop b/c of the dirt, as epsas points out.
>>>
>>> Rachel
>>>
>>> epsas at evil-wire.org wrote:
>>>> The laser cutter will need to have ventilation -- it will also need
>>>> to be in a room free of dust and airborne contaminants (as those
>>>> can munge up the mirrors)...  access to water is also important for
>>>> cooling.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:21:39AM -0700, Shannon Lee wrote:
>>>>> So, I think this is a great goal; perhaps we decide what we want
>>>>> and then
>>>>> set up a fundable for it.
>>>>> As for your specific questions:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) It's totally cool, and has been something specifically
>>>>> mentioned in the
>>>>> same breath as '3d printer' as something we want for our fab
>>>>> setup. We
>>>>> didn't get one at 83c because we didn't have room.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) I am a big fan of the 'get a cheap one now' model; cheap means
>>>>> we get a
>>>>> lot more experience figuring out why it broke, and now means we
>>>>> have more
>>>>> time to do it -- we may have bought a cheap one, learned how to do
>>>>> cool
>>>>> stuff with it, broken it, and been able to build enthusiasm for a
>>>>> much
>>>>> better new one by the time we've raised the money for a nice one.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) Does it need its own room?  Can it live in either the dirty
>>>>> shop or the
>>>>> electronics area?  Does the room currently being used as the
>>>>> electrical shed
>>>>> work for this purpose?
>>>>>
>>>>> 4) Fundables is a great way to raise money for stuff like this,
>>>>> someone has
>>>>> to volunteer to be the Point Person.
>>>>>
>>>>> 5)  Everyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> --S
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Jonathan Foote <jtfoote at ieee.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> LASER CUTTER.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WANT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After seeing the awesome you can do at Tech Shop and NYCResistor,
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> willing to spearhead (lenshead?) an effort to get a laser cutter
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> Noisebridge. Though I've used one a couple times,
>>>>>> I'm a relative noob. Talking points:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Is this cool?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. What do we want in terms of power, deck size, cost (i.e. name
>>>>>> brand
>>>>>> or Chinese)? Used (cheaper, but potential for fraud and
>>>>>> jankiness)  or
>>>>>> new ($$$$) ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. Assuming people are OK with it at Noisebridge, where does it  
>>>>>> go?
>>>>>> The DJ booth seems good in terms of corner location (low  
>>>>>> vibration,
>>>>>> out of the way, some sound isolation) and access to window/wall
>>>>>> (for
>>>>>> ventilation). The DJs might disagree. Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. How do we pay? Consensus donations seems to be a workable
>>>>>> solution,
>>>>>> but we would have to figure out a quid pro quo (i.e. donors get
>>>>>> priority or something). Is $20K an unreasonable goal?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5. Maintenance. Who babysits and fixes it when it breaks? (I will
>>>>>> volunteer some but can't be there 24/7.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grey started a wiki page in June. If you are interested in
>>>>>> donating,
>>>>>> using, or just interested, please sign up:
>>>>>> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Lasercutter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will summarize any list discussion there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just in: I asked Bre Pettis of NYCResistor (who makes a living on
>>>>>> his)
>>>>>> for advice. Here's his response:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Minimum: 35 Watt Epilog Mini. 12x24  Machine + Filter + Tax =  
>>>>>>> 20K
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very Desirable: 60 Watt Epilog. 24x36 Machine + Filter + Tax =
>>>>>>> more than
>>>>>> 20k.
>>>>>>> We wish we had gotten a more powerful machine, but because we
>>>>>>> didn't know
>>>>>> better and it's a lot of money, we went with the mini.
>>>>>>> Don't get a chinese off brand machine. They are cheap and well,
>>>>>>> cheap.
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Shannon Lee
>>>>> (503) 539-3700
>>>>>
>>>>> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from  
>>>>> science."
>>>>
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