[Noisebridge-discuss] Free garden space 2 blocks from Noisebridge
Patrick Lake
pat at patsanimation.com
Tue Aug 24 02:30:55 UTC 2010
Trying this again... I posted about it and didn't realize the craigslist ad had just expired.
I'm at 16th/s van ness, about 2 blocks from noisebridge. I have a raised bed garden, 10 x 15, fenced, available to plant. It's private access only, so this would be a personal arrangement with me, but I would like to be hands-off and just let users in to do what they want with it. I'm asking nothing in return, it would just be nice to allow it to get used, instead of looking at messy overgrown weeds. I have a list of candidates right now and some are coming to look on Wed. 8/25 at 4pm. It would be a cooperative arrangement with others you might be able to work with for support. Call me at 716-352-0287 if interested. Also feel free to pass it on or consider other uses for a good patch of yard space.
As a side note I notice people posting about books. I deal books professionally. If you ever have a need for books that are hard to find, or new and too demanded to be available cheap, ask me about it. I might be able to work some magic to hook you up with a better deal. I have a number of expensive electronics books and stuff like that too. They aren't cheap but I can discount somewhat for cash purchase in person.
-Pat
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> 1. Burning Man - ride, etc (Dougie)
> 2. Studio space (Tymm Twillman)
> 3. the two towers (lee worden)
> 4. Added a page to the Wiki for project sources (Brian Choate)
> 5. Re: Added a page to the Wiki for project sources (Jack Perkins)
> 6. Re: Amateur Radio at Noisebridge? (Paul Suliin)
> 7. Re: Arduino Work Group? (Mario Landau Holdsworth)
> 8. Re: Amateur Radio at Noisebridge? (Josh Myer)
> 9. Re: Art of Electronics [Book] (William Nye_COMCAST)
> 10. Re: Art of Electronics [Book] (Michael Shiloh)
> 11. Re: Art of Electronics [Book] (Josh Myer)
> 12. Zergbridge R&D (Robert Fletcher)
> 13. Re: Art of Electronics [Book] (Michael Shiloh)
> 14. Re: Art of Electronics [Book] (Kragen Javier Sitaker)
> 15. Noisebridge has been cited on a brazilian magazine
> (Felipe Sanches)
> 16. Re: Amateur Radio at Noisebridge? (Joel Jaeggli)
> 17. Re: Art of Electronics [Book] (jim)
> 18. Re: Art of Electronics [Book] (Seth David Schoen)
> 19. Re: Art of Electronics [Book] (Michael Shiloh)
> 20. Re: Amateur Radio at Noisebridge? (Paul Suliin)
> 21. Re: Amateur Radio at Noisebridge? (Joel Jaeggli)
> 22. need server hardware ASAP (Carl Sue)
> 23. Re: Arduino Work Group? (Jason Jacobs)
> 24. Spacebridge still missing flight android G1 (Brian Choate)
> 25. Re: Art of Electronics [Book] (Brian Choate)
> 26. Re: Art of Electronics [Book] (Rameen)
> 27. Circuit Hacking Monday, August 23rd, 2010 (miloh)
> 28. lost jacket (Audrey Penven)
> 29. Re: lost jacket (Audrey Penven)
>
> From: Dougie <daworley at gmail.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 12:22:02 PM PDT
> To: NoiseBridge <Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Burning Man - ride, etc
>
>
> I have up until now been steadfastly planning on not going up to playa this year for financial reasons.
>
> Last night a few jerks friends played hardball with me, and literally thrust a ticket and a few other resources into my hands. I still have not decided to go (weighing unemployment and job hunting, etc), but the reasons not to go are significantly less now.
>
> Were I to head up, I'd want to leave Thursday Aug 26 for early build, and come back early Thursday Sep 2 of the event. Might someone be able to help me up or back? Insert usual offerings of gas money, scintillating conversation and my firstborn child here.
>
>
> I apologize for posting to multiple lists, so please email me directly if you have any leads for me.
>
> Also I apologize in advance for posting something potentially off topic.
>
>
> Thanks!
> - Dougie
>
>
>
>
> From: Tymm Twillman <tymmothy at gmail.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 12:50:26 PM PDT
> To: Noisebridge List <Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Studio space
>
>
> Hey, hope nobody minds me asking here -- I'm freshly in town, and trying to find studio space (at least 300sqft), preferably somewhere I can use power tools, easy bikeable distance to the Mission. (I mostly do electronic design, prototyping & programming, but also need to occasionally build things from wood/plastic).
>
> I've been on Craigslist and found a few interesting places to check out, but it seems most places either power tools are an issue, or the space isn't built well for general security (don't need anything insane, but my livelihood is largely based around tools that are fairly expensive, so need basic piece of mind). Oh, and I do need 24/7 access.
>
> If anyone has leads, I'd really appreciate it.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Tymm
>
>
>
> From: lee worden <wonder at riseup.net>
> Date: August 22, 2010 12:59:41 PM PDT
> To: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] the two towers
>
>
> I've just been tasked with finding a home for two desktop power macs, a G3 and a G4. Would it be appropriate to make a donation by dropping them off at nb?
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Brian Choate <brian.choate at gmail.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 1:53:20 PM PDT
> To: Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Added a page to the Wiki for project sources
>
>
> I was looking around on the website for places to pick up stuff locally, but didn't really see anything. So I've started a page on the wiki for sources for electronic and other project needs. If there was already a page that this information should have been added to let me know and I will move any useful information to that page.
>
> I know this is not an exhaustive list, so please add your favorite sources to the list. The list so far focuses on electronics, but please add any useful sources for mechanical, crafty, construction, etc...
>
> I would really love to see more local/independent sources.
>
> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Sources_for_electronic_and_other_project_components
>
> Thanks,
> B.
>
>
>
>
> From: Jack Perkins <jackaperkins at gmail.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 2:09:55 PM PDT
> To: Brian Choate <brian.choate at gmail.com>
> Cc: Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Added a page to the Wiki for project sources
>
>
> This is excellent. Thanks for getting all this on there!
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Brian Choate <brian.choate at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I was looking around on the website for places to pick up stuff locally, but
>> didn't really see anything. So I've started a page on the wiki for sources
>> for electronic and other project needs. If there was already a page that
>> this information should have been added to let me know and I will move any
>> useful information to that page.
>>
>> I know this is not an exhaustive list, so please add your favorite sources
>> to the list. The list so far focuses on electronics, but please add any
>> useful sources for mechanical, crafty, construction, etc...
>>
>> I would really love to see more local/independent sources.
>>
>> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Sources_for_electronic_and_other_project_components
>>
>> Thanks,
>> B.
>>
>>
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> From: Paul Suliin <psuliin at gmail.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 2:14:34 PM PDT
> To: Josh Myer <josh at joshisanerd.com>, noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Amateur Radio at Noisebridge?
>
>
>
> Josh, what sorts of cultural things do you mean? At the moment I'm studying for the exam using books provided by ARRL, so there's not much of a cultural aspect to that.
>
> Best,
>
> --Paul
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Josh Myer <josh at joshisanerd.com> wrote:
> Crams are great! Go cram!
>
> They're absolutely the best way to get started in ham radio. You miss out on the cultural aspects of things, so you'll need to find some way to fill in those gaps. But they allow you to go out and buy your own radio, listen in on nets and things, and actually transmit yourself Really Soon.
>
>
>
> --
> Paul Suliin
> Information Research and Technical Writing
> psuliin at gmail.com
> (408) 802-1147
>
>
>
> From: Mario Landau Holdsworth <mariolh at gmail.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 2:22:28 PM PDT
> To: Jason Jacobs <jason.jacobs at gmail.com>
> Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Arduino Work Group?
>
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> It seems like there is interest from a few people in a Arduino Work Group. The idea is to complement Michael's class with an informal work group.
>
> I will be there tomorrow (Monday) at 6pm working on arduino projects if anyone else wants to join.
>
> I think that it this could fit with the circuit hacking quite well, but if we find its to crowded we can always move it to another day of the week in the future.
>
> Hope to see you there!
>
> Mario
>
>
>
>
> From: Josh Myer <josh at joshisanerd.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 2:34:47 PM PDT
> To: Paul Suliin <psuliin at gmail.com>
> Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Amateur Radio at Noisebridge?
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Paul Suliin <psuliin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Josh, what sorts of cultural things do you mean? At the moment I'm studying for the exam using books provided by ARRL, so there's not much of a cultural aspect to that.
>
>
> Mostly the jargon, so you can sensibly talk about radios and the weather on internet-linked 2m/70cm repeaters. Also, the thorough appreciation that most hams are at a point in life where the most exciting thing going on is the cure for their wife's foot fungus (true story, overheard on a local repeater, probably via IRLP, even).
>
> There are a lot of little rules in amateur radio. Imagine noisebridge, but without the anarchist/libertarian/common-sense consensus process. Nerds like rules, and, without a structure that makes it hard to create rules, they will make lots of them. Happily, very few of them are actually legally enforced, but it's best not to piss off the community. This includes stuff like running digital over a CW frequency, etc. (Elmers will say that bandplans exist to conserve precious spectrum; if more than 10% of the band is in use simultaneously around here, I'd be surprised.)
>
> The ARRL books might actually cover this; I'm not sure. The key thing to always remember: don't piss off the Country Kitchen set, and you're good.
>
> (All that said: I'm planning to get my General soon, and ordered the ARRL Extra book.)
>
> 73 de KJ6ANM
> --
> /jbm
>
>
>
> From: William Nye_COMCAST <nye2 at email.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 2:44:06 PM PDT
> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Art of Electronics [Book]
>
>
> Thanks for the tip, I just downloaded the book .pdf for free at
> http://rs229.rapidshare.com/files/262095863/The_Art_of_Electronics_-_Horowitz___Hill.pdf
> I can upload it to the Noisebridge site (if someone shows me how). -Bill
>
>> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:43:42 -0700
>> From: travis+ml-noisebridge at subspacefield.org
>> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Art of Electronics, Electronics Workbench
>> If anyone hasn't read this excellent book, you can learn in 3 months
>> more useful stuff than I learned in 3 years in a BSEE program.
>> I know NB may be missing their dead-tree copy, but... worth finding,
>> in paper or electronic form.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Michael Shiloh <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 2:47:12 PM PDT
> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Art of Electronics [Book]
> Reply-To: michael at michaelshiloh.com
>
>
> Wow. That's awesome. I didn't realize the book was available for downloading.
>
> What is this Electronics Workbench of which you speak?
>
> M
>
> On 08/22/2010 02:44 PM, William Nye_COMCAST wrote:
>> Thanks for the tip, I just downloaded the book .pdf for free at
>> http://rs229.rapidshare.com/files/262095863/The_Art_of_Electronics_-_Horowitz___Hill.pdf
>> I can upload it to the Noisebridge site (if someone shows me how). -
>> Bill
>>
>>> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:43:42 -0700
>>> From: travis+ml-noisebridge at subspacefield.org
>>> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Art of Electronics, Electronics
>>> Workbench
>>> If anyone hasn't read this excellent book, you can learn in 3 months
>>> more useful stuff than I learned in 3 years in a BSEE program.
>>> I know NB may be missing their dead-tree copy, but... worth finding,
>>> in paper or electronic form.
>>
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>> Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
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>
> --
> Sent from my ASR-33
>
>
>
>
> From: Josh Myer <josh at joshisanerd.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 2:58:08 PM PDT
> To: michael at michaelshiloh.com
> Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Art of Electronics [Book]
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Michael Shiloh <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow. That's awesome. I didn't realize the book was available for
> downloading.
>
>
> This is clearly not a legal, legit copy. There's a dead tree version at Noisebridge, someplace.
>
> What is this Electronics Workbench of which you speak?
>
>
> EWB is apparently now known as National Instruments Multisim. It's a rather expensive (but really nice) SPICE frontend. I used it about a decade ago, when it was still Electronics Workbench, and loved it.
>
> On the other hand, when you meet a EE who can't solder, you usually have National Instruments to thank.
> --
> Josh Myer 650.248.3796
> josh at joshisanerd.com
>
>
>
> From: Robert Fletcher <lobatifricha at gmail.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 3:03:06 PM PDT
> To: sfredditors at googlegroups.com, noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Zergbridge R&D
>
>
> Hey all. Our weekly LAN party is shaping up. We've got a strong set of regulars with even the old macs able to get in on the action. Killing Floor has been our drug of choice, but we are nearing capacity for a good match of TF2 or who knows what else. We got in a couple of matches of Multiwinia as well, of which I am the humble reigning champion.
>
> Next week we've decided to add a twist to our sessions. That would be the D in 'Zergbridge R&D'. As a way of expanding our horizons as well as our frag counts we are going to begin our sessions with a collaborative game development project. The idea is simple: concept to market in a single sitting. We will work together to come up with a game idea and finish it during the same day. There is pretty heavy interest in Android development amongst those I've talked to, so we will no doubt be focusing on that for our first meeting, but we'll evolve our platform as we smooth out the bumps and start getting a feel for the interests of the people involved.
>
> So if you are interested in taking part in game development drop by Noisebridge (2169 Mission) this Saturday around 3pm -- all skill levels invited. If you're just in for the games, stop by a little later, maybe around 6pm, depending on how our dev session goes. If you want to play but aren't sure of your setup, bring in your machine and we'll get you up and running.
>
> I'm going to put together a private email list to avoid spamming the group, so if you're interested in keeping in the loop email me directly.
>
> Hope to see you there.
>
> --
> Robert T. Fletcher
> 309.242.0653
> =========================
> "Luck is what happens when preparedness meets opportunity—and opportunity is there all the time." – Earl Nightingale
>
>
>
> From: Michael Shiloh <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 3:09:32 PM PDT
> To: Josh Myer <josh at joshisanerd.com>
> Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Art of Electronics [Book]
> Reply-To: michael at michaelshiloh.com
>
>
> Thank you. Excellent points, both.
>
> I support Horvitz and Hill, I won't be using the illegal copy.
>
> I remember Multisim. I'm a Linux bigot, and IIRC that prevented me from going any further.
>
> I often get EE students from UCB at my Crucible classes because they realize that soldering would be a useful skill.
>
>
> On 08/22/2010 02:58 PM, Josh Myer wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Michael Shiloh
>> <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com <mailto:michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Wow. That's awesome. I didn't realize the book was available for
>> downloading.
>>
>>
>> This is clearly not a legal, legit copy. There's a dead tree version at
>> Noisebridge, someplace.
>>
>> What is this Electronics Workbench of which you speak?
>>
>>
>> EWB is apparently now known as National Instruments Multisim. It's a
>> rather expensive (but really nice) SPICE frontend. I used it about a
>> decade ago, when it was still Electronics Workbench, and loved it.
>>
>> On the other hand, when you meet a EE who can't solder, you usually have
>> National Instruments to thank.
>> --
>> Josh Myer 650.248.3796
>> josh at joshisanerd.com <mailto:josh at joshisanerd.com>
>
>
>
>
> From: Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen at canonical.org>
> Date: August 22, 2010 3:26:20 PM PDT
> To: michael at michaelshiloh.com
> Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Art of Electronics [Book]
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 02:47:12PM -0700, Michael Shiloh wrote:
>> Wow. That's awesome. I didn't realize the book was available for
>> downloading.
>
> This is 2010. All popular books are available for downloading.
> Rapidshare has a lot of them.
>
>>> http://rs229.rapidshare.com/files/262095863/The_Art_of_Electronics_-_Horowitz___Hill.pdf
>
> This copy is missing chapter 1.
>
> Kragen (who lives in a country that permits copying books for educational use)
>
>
>
>
> From: Felipe Sanches <juca at members.fsf.org>
> Date: August 22, 2010 3:44:10 PM PDT
> To: "<noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>" <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge has been cited on a brazilian magazine
>
>
> http://bighead.poli.usp.br/~juca/imagens/HackerspaceSP-RevistaINFO-ed294.png
>
> The snippet you can see in the image link above contains the following
> text (originally published in brazilian portuguese):
>
> =========
> A hackerspace in Brazil?
>
> Hackerspaces are spaces with "electronic components, soldering guns,
> multimeters, power supplies, oscilloscopes" and other gadgets for
> technologic projects, states Felipe Sanches, software developer and
> one of the creators of HackerspaceSP. Inspiration comes from centers
> like Noisebridge [photo], in the United States, focused in creation
> and modification of programs and machines. In Brazil, it's all only an
> idea, but the group, found at http://hackerspace.ning.com, considers
> having its headquarters at Casa de Cultura Digital [House of Digital
> Culture], in São Paulo.
> =========
>
> The magazine that published it is a very famous IT magazine in Brazil,
> "INFO EXAME", owned by "Grupo Abril", a highly influential local media
> group.
>
> cheers,
> Felipe Sanches
>
>
>
>
> From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja at bogus.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 3:50:59 PM PDT
> To: Paul Suliin <psuliin at gmail.com>
> Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Amateur Radio at Noisebridge?
>
>
> On 8/22/10 2:14 PM, Paul Suliin wrote:
>>
>> Josh, what sorts of cultural things do you mean? At the moment I'm
>> studying for the exam using books provided by ARRL, so there's not much
>> of a cultural aspect to that.
>
> The cram is a product of the fact that there's a predefined pool of
> questions, that with about 4 hours of reading you can cram enough of
> them into your short term memory that you can pass the test...
>
> So, while you can study, there's not in fact much point per-see as far
> as the cram goes. on the other hand if you want to know about the
> physics and assumptions that go with the hobby the cram isn't about that.
>
>> Best,
>>
>> --Paul
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Josh Myer <josh at joshisanerd.com
>> <mailto:josh at joshisanerd.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Crams are great! Go cram!
>>
>> They're absolutely the best way to get started in ham radio. You
>> miss out on the cultural aspects of things, so you'll need to find
>> some way to fill in those gaps. But they allow you to go out and
>> buy your own radio, listen in on nets and things, and actually
>> transmit yourself Really Soon.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Paul Suliin
>> Information Research and Technical Writing
>> psuliin at gmail.com <mailto:psuliin at gmail.com>
>> (408) 802-1147
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>> Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>
>
>
>
>
> From: jim <jim at well.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 3:52:13 PM PDT
> To: Josh Myer <josh at joshisanerd.com>
> Cc: michael at michaelshiloh.com, noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Art of Electronics [Book]
>
>
>
> A Story
>
> A business made technical products. The owners took
> pride in their quality and each year went to the best
> engineering schools to hire the best graduates.
> For two or three decades the company did well, but
> at some point the owners (engineers themselves) noted
> that their quality was slipping. They hired a
> consultant to help remedy.
> The consultant came on site for a couple of weeks
> and finally reported to the owners:
> "I've interviewed your engineers and have found a
> correlation. Some of your engineers produce high
> quality designs and some do not. Those that produce
> high quality designs have in common that they all fix
> their own cars."
>
> It seems that good designers need more than math
> and reading; there is some learning that comes from
> hand work. There's a claim that the part of the brain
> that controls finger movement also is responsible for
> language.
>
>
>
> On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 14:58 -0700, Josh Myer wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Michael Shiloh
>> <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Wow. That's awesome. I didn't realize the book was available
>> for
>> downloading.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is clearly not a legal, legit copy. There's a dead tree version
>> at Noisebridge, someplace.
>>
>> What is this Electronics Workbench of which you speak?
>>
>>
>>
>> EWB is apparently now known as National Instruments Multisim. It's a
>> rather expensive (but really nice) SPICE frontend. I used it about a
>> decade ago, when it was still Electronics Workbench, and loved it.
>>
>>
>> On the other hand, when you meet a EE who can't solder, you usually
>> have National Instruments to thank.
>> --
>> Josh Myer 650.248.3796
>> josh at joshisanerd.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>> Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Seth David Schoen <schoen at loyalty.org>
> Date: August 22, 2010 4:00:41 PM PDT
> To: Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen at canonical.org>
> Cc: michael at michaelshiloh.com, noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Art of Electronics [Book]
>
>
> Kragen Javier Sitaker writes:
>
>> Kragen (who lives in a country that permits copying books for educational use)
>
> I remember being amazed on a visit to a neighboring country when a
> number of law school professors started a campaign called "Copying
> Books is a Right!" to promote a similar legal norm.
>
> I didn't see a high incidence of book-photocopying when I was a
> university student here in the U.S., but it seems ubiquitous elsewhere.
>
> Apart from the copyright angle, there are a number of projects to
> help people digitize print books, ending up with a DRM-free ebook,
> often with searchable text. The homebrew versions often use digital
> cameras instead of scanners; notably
>
> http://www.bookliberator.com/
>
> --
> Seth David Schoen <schoen at loyalty.org> | Qué empresa fácil no pensar en
> http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | un tigre, reflexioné.
> http://vitanuova.loyalty.org/ | -- Borges, El Zahir
>
>
>
>
> From: Michael Shiloh <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 4:01:59 PM PDT
> To: jim <jim at well.com>
> Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Art of Electronics [Book]
> Reply-To: michael at michaelshiloh.com
>
>
> That's a great story. Thanks for sharing.
>
> On 08/22/2010 03:52 PM, jim wrote:
>>
>> A Story
>>
>> A business made technical products. The owners took
>> pride in their quality and each year went to the best
>> engineering schools to hire the best graduates.
>> For two or three decades the company did well, but
>> at some point the owners (engineers themselves) noted
>> that their quality was slipping. They hired a
>> consultant to help remedy.
>> The consultant came on site for a couple of weeks
>> and finally reported to the owners:
>> "I've interviewed your engineers and have found a
>> correlation. Some of your engineers produce high
>> quality designs and some do not. Those that produce
>> high quality designs have in common that they all fix
>> their own cars."
>>
>> It seems that good designers need more than math
>> and reading; there is some learning that comes from
>> hand work. There's a claim that the part of the brain
>> that controls finger movement also is responsible for
>> language.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 14:58 -0700, Josh Myer wrote:
>>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Michael Shiloh
>>> <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Wow. That's awesome. I didn't realize the book was available
>>> for
>>> downloading.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is clearly not a legal, legit copy. There's a dead tree version
>>> at Noisebridge, someplace.
>>>
>>> What is this Electronics Workbench of which you speak?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> EWB is apparently now known as National Instruments Multisim. It's a
>>> rather expensive (but really nice) SPICE frontend. I used it about a
>>> decade ago, when it was still Electronics Workbench, and loved it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On the other hand, when you meet a EE who can't solder, you usually
>>> have National Instruments to thank.
>>> --
>>> Josh Myer 650.248.3796
>>> josh at joshisanerd.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> From: Paul Suliin <psuliin at gmail.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 4:09:52 PM PDT
> To: Joel Jaeggli <joelja at bogus.com>
> Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Amateur Radio at Noisebridge?
>
>
> Got it. I think if I went for a cram it would just be to reinforce everything that I had absorbed from earlier studies, to have it fresh in mind just before I took the test. The physics, cultural assumptions and history that I get from studying are a large part of the value for me.
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Joel Jaeggli <joelja at bogus.com> wrote:
> On 8/22/10 2:14 PM, Paul Suliin wrote:
> >
> > Josh, what sorts of cultural things do you mean? At the moment I'm
> > studying for the exam using books provided by ARRL, so there's not much
> > of a cultural aspect to that.
>
> The cram is a product of the fact that there's a predefined pool of
> questions, that with about 4 hours of reading you can cram enough of
> them into your short term memory that you can pass the test...
>
> So, while you can study, there's not in fact much point per-see as far
> as the cram goes. on the other hand if you want to know about the
> physics and assumptions that go with the hobby the cram isn't about that.
>
> > Best,
> >
> > --Paul
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Josh Myer <josh at joshisanerd.com
> > <mailto:josh at joshisanerd.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Crams are great! Go cram!
> >
> > They're absolutely the best way to get started in ham radio. You
> > miss out on the cultural aspects of things, so you'll need to find
> > some way to fill in those gaps. But they allow you to go out and
> > buy your own radio, listen in on nets and things, and actually
> > transmit yourself Really Soon.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Paul Suliin
> > Information Research and Technical Writing
> > psuliin at gmail.com <mailto:psuliin at gmail.com>
> > (408) 802-1147
> >
> >
> >
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> > Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> > https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>
>
>
>
> --
> Paul Suliin
> Information Research and Technical Writing
> psuliin at gmail.com
> (408) 802-1147
>
>
>
> From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja at bogus.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 4:15:33 PM PDT
> To: Paul Suliin <psuliin at gmail.com>
> Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Amateur Radio at Noisebridge?
>
>
> On 8/22/10 4:09 PM, Paul Suliin wrote:
>> Got it. I think if I went for a cram it would just be to reinforce
>> everything that I had absorbed from earlier studies, to have it fresh in
>> mind just before I took the test. The physics, cultural assumptions and
>> history that I get from studying are a large part of the value for me.
>
> Indeed, I agree.
>
> That said, given that there's no cw requirement anymore you can advance
> all the way to amateur extra at one go if you can stand to sit through
> three tests in a row.
>
>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Joel Jaeggli <joelja at bogus.com
>> <mailto:joelja at bogus.com>> wrote:
>>
>> On 8/22/10 2:14 PM, Paul Suliin wrote:
>>>
>>> Josh, what sorts of cultural things do you mean? At the moment I'm
>>> studying for the exam using books provided by ARRL, so there's not
>> much
>>> of a cultural aspect to that.
>>
>> The cram is a product of the fact that there's a predefined pool of
>> questions, that with about 4 hours of reading you can cram enough of
>> them into your short term memory that you can pass the test...
>>
>> So, while you can study, there's not in fact much point per-see as far
>> as the cram goes. on the other hand if you want to know about the
>> physics and assumptions that go with the hobby the cram isn't about
>> that.
>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> --Paul
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Josh Myer <josh at joshisanerd.com
>> <mailto:josh at joshisanerd.com>
>>> <mailto:josh at joshisanerd.com <mailto:josh at joshisanerd.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Crams are great! Go cram!
>>>
>>> They're absolutely the best way to get started in ham radio. You
>>> miss out on the cultural aspects of things, so you'll need to find
>>> some way to fill in those gaps. But they allow you to go out and
>>> buy your own radio, listen in on nets and things, and actually
>>> transmit yourself Really Soon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Paul Suliin
>>> Information Research and Technical Writing
>>> psuliin at gmail.com <mailto:psuliin at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:psuliin at gmail.com <mailto:psuliin at gmail.com>>
>>> (408) 802-1147
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>> <mailto:Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Paul Suliin
>> Information Research and Technical Writing
>> psuliin at gmail.com <mailto:psuliin at gmail.com>
>> (408) 802-1147
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Carl Sue <theabcasian at gmail.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 5:16:59 PM PDT
> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] need server hardware ASAP
>
>
> Greetings all
> I am in desperate need of some server hardware (or mac Mini) ASAP if anyone knows of a machine on the hack shelf or has one lying around i need something with a 2GHz+ intel core duo processor, 2GB+ ram. minimum need it for onsite but should be done with it in the next few weeks.
>
>
>
> From: Jason Jacobs <jason.jacobs at gmail.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 6:38:08 PM PDT
> To: Mario Landau Holdsworth <mariolh at gmail.com>
> Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Arduino Work Group?
>
>
> Cool. Would anyone in attendance have an Arduino board I could borrow or buy? I ordered one, but it won't arrive until Tuesday.
>
> Jason
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Mario Landau Holdsworth <mariolh at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> It seems like there is interest from a few people in a Arduino Work Group. The idea is to complement Michael's class with an informal work group.
>
> I will be there tomorrow (Monday) at 6pm working on arduino projects if anyone else wants to join.
>
> I think that it this could fit with the circuit hacking quite well, but if we find its to crowded we can always move it to another day of the week in the future.
>
> Hope to see you there!
>
> Mario
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Brian Choate <brian.choate at gmail.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 7:29:36 PM PDT
> To: "noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net" <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>, space <space at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Spacebridge still missing flight android G1
>
>
> We still cannot find our flight ready G1.
>
> We have completely pulled everything from our shelves today as part of a
> reorganization and didn't see it anywhere.
>
> If you have been with us on any of our launch/recovery missions, please
> check your bags, car, etc to see if you might have snagged it.
>
> If you have come across a random G1 in the space that you thought might
> have been up for grabs, let's talk, it might be ours.
>
> I really don't want to think anyone would have taken it unless it was
> purely by mistake.
>
> Thanks,
> B.
>
>
>
>
> From: Brian Choate <brian.choate at gmail.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 7:37:27 PM PDT
> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Art of Electronics [Book]
>
>
> Do folks have recommendations for a good analog/digital design and
> simulation software? Preferable open-source or at least free/cheap.
>
> I've come across gEDA which looks very promising, but I haven't had a
> chance to really start working with it.
>
> Any gEDA experts that might want to do a class? Or even a SPICE guru
> that would like to teach a class?
>
> Thanks,
> B.
>
>
> On 08/22/2010 02:58 PM, Josh Myer wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Michael Shiloh
>> <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com <mailto:michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Wow. That's awesome. I didn't realize the book was available for
>> downloading.
>>
>>
>> This is clearly not a legal, legit copy. There's a dead tree version at
>> Noisebridge, someplace.
>>
>>
>> What is this Electronics Workbench of which you speak?
>>
>>
>> EWB is apparently now known as National Instruments Multisim. It's a
>> rather expensive (but really nice) SPICE frontend. I used it about a
>> decade ago, when it was still Electronics Workbench, and loved it.
>>
>> On the other hand, when you meet a EE who can't solder, you usually have
>> National Instruments to thank.
>> --
>> Josh Myer 650.248.3796
>> josh at joshisanerd.com <mailto:josh at joshisanerd.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Rameen <emprameen at gmail.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 7:48:31 PM PDT
> To: William Nye_COMCAST <nye2 at email.com>
> Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Art of Electronics [Book]
>
>
> There's a copy of the book on the computer in the soldering station. It's on the desktop of the guest account with some other book.
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 2:44 PM, William Nye_COMCAST <nye2 at email.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the tip, I just downloaded the book .pdf for free at
> http://rs229.rapidshare.com/files/262095863/The_Art_of_Electronics_-_Horowitz___Hill.pdf
> I can upload it to the Noisebridge site (if someone shows me how). -
> Bill
>
> > Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:43:42 -0700
> > From: travis+ml-noisebridge at subspacefield.org
> > Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Art of Electronics, Electronics
> > Workbench
> > If anyone hasn't read this excellent book, you can learn in 3 months
> > more useful stuff than I learned in 3 years in a BSEE program.
> > I know NB may be missing their dead-tree copy, but... worth finding,
> > in paper or electronic form.
>
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>
>
>
>
> From: miloh <froggytoad at gmail.com>
> Date: August 22, 2010 11:14:35 PM PDT
> To: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>, noisebridge-announce <noisebridge-announce at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Circuit Hacking Monday, August 23rd, 2010
>
>
> What: Circuit Hacking Monday
> When: Today, Monday August 23rd, 2010, 7PM~10PM
> Where: Noisebridge, 2169 Mission Street, 3rd floor, San Francisco, CA
> Who: Circuiteers in the 21st century.
>
> I'll be at Noisebridge working on electronics projects and soldering
> tomorrow for Circuit Hacking Monday (Monday August 23rd, 2010), so
> please come by Noisebridge if you have electronics projects to work
> on, or if you want to learn about electronics and soldering.
>
> There will also be folks working on Arduino projects from 6pm to whenever,
> come and check it out if you have a project to share or work on with a group.
>
> We still have Adafruit and Cornfield, and AppliedPlatonics electronics
> kits available:
> TV-B-Gone (turn off TVs in public places!)
> Brain Machine (Meditate, Hallucinate, and Trip Out!)
> Mignonette Game (play fun games!)
> Trippy RGB Waves (interactive blinky lights!)
> LEDcube (animated 3D cube!)
> MiniPOV (more cool blinky l ights!)
> MintyBoost (charge your USB enabled gadgets!)
> microcontroller programmers (program all your AVR family chips!)
> Arduino clones (make just about anything!)
> Open Heart (animate fun patterns in the shape of a heart!)
> Atari Punk Console (make cool noise from an Altoids tin!)
> Volksduino (an Arduino-shield compatible *duino kit),
> 48-input analog shield (48 inputs broken out to an Arduino
> compatible shield!)
> Breaduino (all the parts you need to breadboard Arduinos, or
> assemble Volksduinos)
>
> More info on most of these projects is available:
>
> Mitch's website:
> http://www.CornfieldElectronics.com (click on the "maker faire" tab).
> The Adafruit website:
> http://www.adafruit.com/
> and Josh Myer's AppliedPlatonics site:
> http://www.appliedplatonics.com/
>
> These sessions are open to all, so please come by and get acquainted
> with Noisebridge if you have been meaning to.
> If you use any kits, reimbursement for kit price is requested.
>
> See the Noisebridge wiki at:
> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Circuit_Hacking_Mondays for more
> details about Circuit Hacking Mondays at Noisebridge.
>
>
> -Ronald Miloh Alexander
>
>
>
>
> From: Audrey Penven <audrey.penven at gmail.com>
> Date: August 23, 2010 12:22:11 AM PDT
> To: "<noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>" <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] lost jacket
>
>
>
> I left a jacket at noisebridge a few months ago. I miss it. It is black, short, and since that's a bullshit description and I may be able to find a photo of it.
> I checked the lost and found, but it wasn't there. Is there anybother place i should check? I haven't been around much lately.
>
> -Audrey
>
>
>
> From: Audrey Penven <audrey.penven at gmail.com>
> Date: August 23, 2010 2:35:36 AM PDT
> To: "<noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>" <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] lost jacket
>
>
> it's the one I'm wearing in this photo:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/michiexile/4677238885/
>
> last had it at Noisebridge on the day the rolling stone photographer came.
>
> - Audrey
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Audrey Penven <audrey.penven at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I left a jacket at noisebridge a few months ago. I miss it. It is black, short, and since that's a bullshit description and I may be able to find a photo of it.
>> I checked the lost and found, but it wasn't there. Is there anybother place i should check? I haven't been around much lately.
>>
>> -Audrey
>
>
>
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