[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge: Death and Taxes

jim jim at systemateka.com
Tue Dec 21 19:21:36 UTC 2010

   As to the PG&E bill, we should deprecate using space 
heaters. most of the heat ( == energy == current == $$$) 
rises into the ceiling sunlight wells. 

   also, thanks to michael kan's favorite temperature 
detector, we can see that circuits for both heaters and 
the old, inefficient flourescent ceiling lamps are 
carrying lots of current. 't will save one or two 
hundred a month if we break the consecutive series of 
light fixtures up so we use fewer. 
   rather than light up the entire space, maybe light 
up specific work areas when we're using them (and 
unlight them as we leave). 
   we can save a little more if we install more modern 
flourescent light fixtures. 
   assuming someone donates sufficient LEDs, we can 
save even more by using LED lights. 

   the circuits for the rack room are carrying a fair 
amount of current. perhaps not everything in the rack 
should be on 24/7? 

   any use of heat is expensive. cooking, too. eat raw 

   maybe we can put out energy jars here and there and 
ask people using lights, computers, cooking, etc. to 
chip in? (maybe with instructions not to use the money 
to buy light bulbs.)

   i can (and will) deal with some of this. i can do 
more work more quickly with some help. please email 
ON LIST if you can volunteer to help with the above. 

On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 23:56 -0800, Andy Isaacson wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 06:52:13PM -0800, Patrick Keys wrote:
> > Okay, this is at least starting to get constructive.
> Um, we've been being constructive for quite a while, I thought. :)
> Glad you could join the party!
> > Right now, we got about $5400.
> That's just our Wells Fargo account -- there's a nontrivial amount in
> Paypal too, although I don't have access to get the actual number -- but
> yes, that's a good baseline.
> > * Have we paid bills for January yet?
> Best person to answer these questions is our treasurer Kelly, who's
> stuck in London due to weather, last I heard.  But I'll take a shot at
> it.
> I'm pretty sure we haven't paid any of the monthly expenses for January.
> AFAIK those consist of
>  - rent ($3600)
>  - trash ($120 or something?  I vaguely remember seeing a bill at some
>    point.)
>  - PG&E (variable, as high as $750)
>  - DSL ($100 IIRC)
> > * When are January bills due?
> Dunno.  Except the rent is due on the 1st, I remember that much.
> Doesn't seem like we're going to scrape bottom in January, though, so
> I'm not worried about due dates in January.  (Due dates in February I am
> worried about...)
> -andy
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