[Noisebridge-discuss] Projection format

Joel Jaeggli joelja at bogus.com
Wed Dec 1 04:46:35 UTC 2010


On 11/30/10 3:29 PM, TeeTrizZz wrote:
> I would do that, but here are the rules:
> 
> Selected films are required to be made available for the festival in the 
> form of
> 35 mm film prints, on Digibeta PAL, Betacam-SP PAL in HDCAM or DCP format.

Way to step into the 21st century clearly... most hdcam recorders and
playback devices (nice and cheap like $30k) will happily do pal scan
rates. I'm mystified by betcam-sp pal in dcp format, dcp is a file
format not a tape transport.

> Usually I do send my DVD, but in this case I can't. But I'm sure I won't 
> need to,
> because my film won't get selected for an international film festival.
> However, I've never had to send something else than a DVD...
> 
> Thanks Patrick and Sean!
> 
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- 
> From: Patrick Keys
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:22 PM
> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Projection format
> 
> Got it backwards, TeeTrizZz.
> No compelling benefit to converting to film if the source is already
> digital (dvd).
> Film's wonderful benefit is great color saturation, but if your source
> was digital then you don't really get that by converting to film.
> Modern video projectors, and certainly any independent film festival,
> will be able to play the dvd directly.
> Save your money and just send the dvd.
> Flash thumb drive upon which you've copied the entire contents of the
> DVD might also be good.
> DVD's get corrupted or the film festival might not have a computer with
> a DVD drive, which is increasingly common.
> Another money-saving option is converting the dvd to a video file and
> emailing/uploading it to the film festival, but that would degrade the
> video quality by compression.
> Corruption and degradation can be fun, but not when it comes to video.
> 
> 
> Patrick
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/30/2010 1:03 PM, Sean Cusack wrote:
>> 35mm is almost certainly the most expensive since you'll probably have
>> to buy a full on 400' roll (~$300 from B&H right now).
>>
>> Digibeta and Betacam are pretty commonly used in TV production stuff
>> (from my experience as being a tech director on 1 closed circuit TV
>> station), so you may get lucky and one of the independent TV stations in
>> the city may have the equipment to do this for you on the cheap.
>> Additionally, the physical media should be cheaper than the other options.
>>
>> Digibeta raw media runs from $15 - $60 depending on runtime (cheapest =
>> shortest = 12min.)
>> Betacam-SP raw media runs from $15 - $35 depending on runtime (cheapest
>> = shortest = 15min.)
>>
>> The only tricky part will be the PAL thing. If a local studio has the
>> beta equipment, they may only have it in NTSC. But, it won't hurt to ask
>> (and a lot of the fancy pro stuff has a little lever you can switch to
>> do either scan mode anyways).
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:51 PM, TeeTrizZz <info at leyenhaft.de
>> <mailto:info at leyenhaft.de>> wrote:
>>
>>     I want to send one of my films to a film festival. The chance to
>>     survive the
>>     first round equals zero. However, I want to try my luck.
>>
>>     I have to choose one of the following projection formats. What do
>>     you think
>>     would be the best/cheapest/easiest format when I send my DVD to a
>>     company
>>     for transfering the movie? Or maybe one of has such a system?
>>
>>     - 35 mm
>>     - Digibeta PAL
>>     - Betacam-SP PAL
>>     - DCP (JPEG 2000)
>>     - HDCAM PAL (no SR)
>>
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