[Noisebridge-discuss] long-time visitors VS. new visitors (the growing rift)

[Patrick Keys]

This is my final comment before I make a conscious effort to seriously 
decrease my comments altogether for awhile...

As a new visitor myself, it feels like there's a growing rift between 
new visitors versus long-time visitors.  I respect that the long-time 
visitors helped bring this space together, know more about the vision of 
the space, and make a conscious effort to keep noisebridge alive.

That said, most of the long-time visitors don't actually show up that 
often.  And when they do, the vibe I personally get is one of 
entitlement as if to say "i own this and you're just a guest".

On the other hand, some of us, like me, use this space as our personal 
office.  This is normal for some other hackerspaces, like Hacker Dojo. 
Basically, people work long hours at the space, take legitimate naps 
there, do some collaborating, and get a lot done.

The issue is when you spend all day here working and then long-time 
visitors show up and act like you're in their way.  I'm not talking 
about anybody in particular, that's just my general observation.  The 
response from newer visitors, in turn, is animosity to the long-timers. 
  The result kinda feels like "us-versus-them".

That's just my observation.  I think making the space feel welcome for 
everybody, long-time and new alike, requires effort from everybody.


Patrick