[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge: Death and Taxes

jim jim at well.com
Tue Dec 21 19:51:31 UTC 2010


   something you can do independently is to take down 
fixtures that aren't being used. 
   maybe disconnect lights that are not necessary, 
like those near the western windows. 

On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 11:37 -0800, Zedd Epstein wrote:
> I can spend most of the day tomorrow working on the lighting. 
> 
> Zedd
> 
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:21 AM, jim <jim at systemateka.com> wrote:
>         
>         
>           As to the PG&E bill, we should deprecate using space
>         heaters. most of the heat ( == energy == current == $$$)
>         rises into the ceiling sunlight wells.
>         
>           also, thanks to michael kan's favorite temperature
>         detector, we can see that circuits for both heaters and
>         the old, inefficient flourescent ceiling lamps are
>         carrying lots of current. 't will save one or two
>         hundred a month if we break the consecutive series of
>         light fixtures up so we use fewer.
>           rather than light up the entire space, maybe light
>         up specific work areas when we're using them (and
>         unlight them as we leave).
>           we can save a little more if we install more modern
>         flourescent light fixtures.
>           assuming someone donates sufficient LEDs, we can
>         save even more by using LED lights.
>         
>           the circuits for the rack room are carrying a fair
>         amount of current. perhaps not everything in the rack
>         should be on 24/7?
>         
>           any use of heat is expensive. cooking, too. eat raw
>         foods?
>         
>           maybe we can put out energy jars here and there and
>         ask people using lights, computers, cooking, etc. to
>         chip in? (maybe with instructions not to use the money
>         to buy light bulbs.)
>         
>           i can (and will) deal with some of this. i can do
>         more work more quickly with some help. please email
>         ON LIST if you can volunteer to help with the above.
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 23:56 -0800, Andy Isaacson wrote:
>         > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 06:52:13PM -0800, Patrick Keys
>         wrote:
>         > > Okay, this is at least starting to get constructive.
>         >
>         > Um, we've been being constructive for quite a while, I
>         thought. :)
>         > Glad you could join the party!
>         >
>         > > Right now, we got about $5400.
>         >
>         > That's just our Wells Fargo account -- there's a nontrivial
>         amount in
>         > Paypal too, although I don't have access to get the actual
>         number -- but
>         > yes, that's a good baseline.
>         >
>         > > * Have we paid bills for January yet?
>         >
>         > Best person to answer these questions is our treasurer
>         Kelly, who's
>         > stuck in London due to weather, last I heard.  But I'll take
>         a shot at
>         > it.
>         >
>         > I'm pretty sure we haven't paid any of the monthly expenses
>         for January.
>         > AFAIK those consist of
>         >  - rent ($3600)
>         >  - trash ($120 or something?  I vaguely remember seeing a
>         bill at some
>         >    point.)
>         >  - PG&E (variable, as high as $750)
>         >  - DSL ($100 IIRC)
>         >
>         > > * When are January bills due?
>         >
>         > Dunno.  Except the rent is due on the 1st, I remember that
>         much.
>         > Doesn't seem like we're going to scrape bottom in January,
>         though, so
>         > I'm not worried about due dates in January.  (Due dates in
>         February I am
>         > worried about...)
>         >
>         > -andy
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