[Noisebridge-discuss] Sleeping at NB

[Danny O'Brien]

On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Albert Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'll try to keep this short.
>
> Technical solutions are beating around the bush. If you see someone
> sleeping at noisebridge, gently wake them up and politely but firmly
> tell them this is unexcellent.
>
> They will say that they don't do it very often, or otherwise try to
> minimize it. Nod your head and let it drop.
>
> The third or so time you have to do this, bring it up with other
> people so that we can publicly come together and discuss it.

I think we're at this point (some people have been approaching the
person involved, but
only now just bringing it up with others).

I haven't heard of anyone sleeping at the place since they were
approached, but I'm not exactly the most connected person at NB. If
anyone hears of it, just mail me, and I'll co-ordinate.

d.


> The
> problem with Frantisek living at Noisebridge was entirely resolved in
> one day by doing just this. Nobody was kicked out, no grudges were
> made, and the problem got solved.
>
> -Al
>
> p.s. I think the trouble with this is that it involves personally
> confronting people, which many people don't feel they have enough
> noisebridge cred to do, and they don't have any solid,
> generally-accepted list of rules to appeal to. It can be very draining
> to confront people, even if you know you are in the right.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Dr. Jesus <j at hug.gs> wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Gian Pablo Villamil
>> <gian.pablo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I think we all agree on "no sleeping at Noisebridge", because we
>>> understand it to be the same as "no living at Noisebridge". Naps are
>>> OK, as is resting after a long night of hacking. What is not OK is
>>> sleeping at NB because you have nowhere else, and ONLY sleeping at NB
>>> and not doing anything else.
>>>
>>> The CCC design patterns for hackerspaces mentions no living at the
>>> hackerspace, not for lease or planning code issues, but for the
>>> reasons that Moxie so eloquently covered: a space where random people
>>> are living is not compatible with a space for hacking.
>>>
>>> Since we all agree on "no living at NB", the real question is how to
>>> deal with people who take advantage of our openness and start doing
>>> so. In principle I agree with Jake in the sense of humanely asking
>>> people why they are doing it, but in practice I have had several days
>>> taken up with dealing with people who were living in the space, and I
>>> would prefer not to.
>>
>> I had the same experience.  Repeated polite requests are just being
>> ignored by a few people.
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