[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisekitchen - Looking for a plumber to do some quick work

[jim]

   (in the spirit of trying to be helpful without having to 
put on my clothes: ) 

   it might be acceptable to pipe in the water and put a 
bucket under the sinks as a temporary measure. 

   putting in drain pipes should consider all pipes needed 
so's to be sure we don't do things that have later to be 
undone or that imply more work than if things were planned 
completely before working. 

   the biggest soil pipe comes from the toilets. beneath each 
toilet is a (in this case) four inch soil pipe that presents 
a J or U trap and then runs at at least a slight slope to the 
stack. 
   assuming that's correct, is it possible to tie into the 
existing toilet's drainage and vent pipes? 

   seems to me that cutting into the stack pipe itself, if 
that's what has to happen, requires cutting out a section of 
the stack that is the size of a Y fitting to be inserted, raise 
the upper portion of the stack pipe, insert the Y section, 
lower the upper section of the stack pipe onto the top of the 
Y section. 

   there are a couple of issues: joining and venting. 

   whatever the joining, it has to accommodate the weight of 
the pipe above the joint (13 pounds per linear foot). 
   can we use a completely hubless Y? if so, good: use a 
no-hub coupling. 
   if not, we have to stuff oakum (that waxy stuff and some 
lead wool around the cup and blast the lead wool with a torch 
until the lead is melted. 
   the ratio of oakum to lead changes, i think, with respect to 
the weight of pipe supported (13 * length above). 

   how to vent? probably a two inch pipe that comes off the run 
between the toilet and the Y and raises up and over to some 
other vent pipe that's conveniently nearby, yes? 

   and there's the problem of all the other drain pipes that 
must connect to the drainage and the vent pipes. needs 
planning before any cutting? 

   also, cutting pipes probably requires a pipe cutter so's to 
get a level butt (sawzall probably a bad idea, yes?). 





On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 19:19 -0800, Zedd Epstein wrote:
> We need someone to cut into the drain stack for the entire building. 
> 
> Zedd
> 
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Melissalynn Perkins
> <melissalynn.perkins at gmail.com> wrote:
>         What all needs to be done? Is it just connecting the right
>         pipes, or is there in the wall work that needs to be done?
>         
>         ~Melissa
>         
>         
>         
>         On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net>
>         wrote:
>                 Last night I biked up to the not Big Gay Safeway on
>                 16th st and bought
>                 some ingredients. Came back to Noisebridge and may
>                 some food quick for a
>                 small number of people. The setup of the counter is
>                 awesome for cooking
>                 while others are playing a board game on the other
>                 end. Big thanks to
>                 Zedd for having it be that sort of shape.
>                 
>                 We need a functional sink asap. Scott our resident
>                 plumber is in surgery
>                 getting his knees cut open and most likely will be out
>                 of the game for a
>                 week or two. Is there anyone bold enough with pluming
>                 skills to finish
>                 most of the sink in the kitchen so we could stop using
>                 the bathroom sink?
>                 
>                 --
>                 Rubin Abdi
>                 rubin at starset.net
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