[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge Lending Library?

jim jim at well.com
Sun Feb 7 17:35:56 UTC 2010



   for me, the fact that some threads are long and 
tedious seems necessary and acceptable. for us 
humans, it's tough to shake out our feelings and 
facts to get clarity among us, a requisite for 
coming together on an issue. 
   i believe that in doing so we'll establish a 
sense of core values that will help speed future 
discussions. 



On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 01:19 -0800, Jon wrote:
> I think this is overcomplicating the issue totally.
> 
> -jon
> 
> On Feb 7, 2010, at 1:16 AM, Sai Emrys wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Will Sargent <will.sargent at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>   People who donate things to noisebridge do so with
> >>> some sense of mission, and donors are part of the
> >>> noisebridge community whether or not they are members.
> >>> it is not excellent to disregard the intentions of
> >>> donors: at least we should understand the intent of the
> >>> donation before co-opting stuff for personal purposes.
> >> 
> >> Not quite sure I understand this; is there a license attached to donations?
> > 
> > No. However, there is a sort of flag attached to any resource that
> > goes into a nonprofit. Once something is donated to a nonprofit, it
> > may not unduly profit any non-profit.
> > 
> > In this context, what that means is that books donated to NB cannot be
> > just given to individuals, because then the individuals (who are not
> > nonprofits) would be profiting from it. They can be *sold* at fair
> > market value, though.
> > 
> > There is an arguable exception, which is that charities are allowed to
> > just give stuff to the group of people that they service. But there're
> > complications there - demonstrating need, showing that you're not just
> > using it to funnel money to your friends, well-defining the target
> > group, etc. Probably not an area NB wants to touch, more because it's
> > a PITA than because it's not possible.
> > 
> > tl;dr: It's a tax thing.
> > 
> > 
> > On-topic: FWIW, I've borrowed some of the books on the shelf for a
> > week or two at a time, but always returned them. I think that this is
> > reasonable use, since one can't really read them while in the space
> > (it's distracting and there isn't enough time). I also think it would
> > be not-nice to just take it, and that accidentally taking it and
> > forgetting to return it is a risk. I don't know how to
> > mitigate/balance these though.
> > 
> > - Sai
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