[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge Executive Director

jim jim at well.com
Sat Feb 27 19:29:07 UTC 2010



+1


On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 09:10 -0800, Ani Niow wrote:
> According to our bylaws
> (https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Bylaws#ARTICLE_V_OFFICERS), the ED's
> only responsibilities to preside over all board meetings and submit a
> financial report 120 days after the end of the fiscal year.
> Occasionally as an officer the ED may be asked to help or sign
> paperwork such as getting a seller's permit (which we've been trying
> to get for months but given the unclear status of if we have actually
> *had* an ED since October it has not happened yet). Other than that
> it's generally being an otherwise awesome contributor to Noisebridge.
> 
> 
> What the arguing is about is that some people feel that the ED should
> have more responsibility, such as being an advocate for Noisebridge in
> their travels and being a representative of sorts. I disagree with
> this view given we are a collective without anyone being in a
> hierarchy, we should all be doing this job as members and
> contributors. 
> 
> 
> As a board member the only power I have is doing the will of the
> membership when there's something you need a board member to do, such
> as some paperwork and whatnot. The only reason why we even have a
> board and officers is because to be a 501(c)3 you need these.
> Otherwise given the non-hierarchical setup of our organisation
> everyone has equal input on what can be done with Noisebridge though
> members do have consensus ability. I think asking more responsibility
> for an ED than what's legally required is anthethical to our
> collective setup and am a bit disappointed in some members that want
> to focus on creating more unnecessary hierarchy. If you want an
> advocate you should go and be one. Remember that this is a do-ocracy
> after all.
> 
> 
> -Ani
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Mikolaj Habryn <dichro at rcpt.to>
> wrote:
>         Is there an official answer on that second point, being what
>         is
>         expected of an ED? A few people have mentioned this to me in
>         passing,
>         and I have no aversion to my name being put forward for the
>         position,
>         but I am somewhat curious as to what the ED should (or
>         shouldn't?) do
>         in future to avoid similar concerns arising next time.
>         
>         m.
>         
>         
>         On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Jeffrey Malone
>         <ieatlint at tehinterweb.com> wrote:
>         > Okay, so we've all spent the last four days twiddling our
>         thumbs after
>         > a fun filled meeting.
>         >
>         > For those not at the meeting, here's a very brief review of
>         what
>         > happened, as there doesn't appear to be meeting notes posted
>         anywhere:
>         >
>         >  - Mitch was blocked from becoming ED.
>         >  - Drama ensued as people argued about what the ED was,
>         either
>         > according to the bylaws, or how they viewed the role, which
>         sometimes
>         > differed.
>         >
>         > We then all agreed on this plan:
>         >
>         > That we would present a new candidate for ED on Tuesday,
>         March 2.
>         > That this would be a candidate who we all would approve on
>         March 9, so
>         > as to get this whole ordeal over with ASAP.
>         > The idea was that we'd talk about candidates, and make sure
>         that by
>         > Tuesday, we'd have someone picked out who was willing, and
>         none of us
>         > hated.
>         >
>         > So four days later, and not a word from anyone.  We're
>         failing at this.
>         >
>         >
>         > I also have a question that someone out there may know.
>         > As is my understanding, being an officer of a corporation in
>         > California is akin to being employed by that organisation
>         (whether you
>         > receive compensation or not).  Thus, there may be a
>         requirement that
>         > the ED be able to legally work in California.  Is this a
>         valid
>         > understanding?
>         > If so, any candidate we submit must be able to legally work
>         here.
>         >
>         >
>         > So I encourage all of you to think of someone that you think
>         would do
>         > alright as ED, and talk to them.  Ask them to step forward
>         and be a
>         > candidate.  Please do it quickly!
>         >
>         > Also, I'd like to remind people, that no person will be
>         everyone's
>         > favourite choice for the job.  Consensus is not about
>         approving, but
>         > specifically not disapproving.
>         > In the interest of productivity, and unity, I would
>         personally
>         > encourage anyone who takes issue with any candidate to do
>         the
>         > following:
>         >  - Talk to the person about your concerns.  See if they can
>         be worked
>         > out.  Ask others to help if you'd like.
>         >  - Think to yourself whether you would be OK with them being
>         ED, even
>         > if you generally wouldn't want them to be.  If so, let your
>         concerns
>         > be known, but realise that if you are a minority voice, it
>         may be wise
>         > to yield to the will of the group.
>         >  - If you have irreconcilable differences with a candidate
>         becoming
>         > ED, SPEAK UP.  QUICKLY.  Try talking to them, but please do
>         not wait
>         > until Tuesday to say so.
>         >
>         > Jeffrey
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