[Noisebridge-discuss] [drama] New logo = terrorism?

epsas at evil-wire.org epsas at evil-wire.org
Sat Jan 9 21:06:15 UTC 2010


Wha?  


Solidarity with violent vanguardist revolutionary groups?  The WU and the RAF were quite dependent on the charisma of their leaders; provoking a class war was their only strategy.  

I believe that the ideas and methods of the Dutch Provotariats suit the hacker zeitgeist better.

My 2 cents,
Charles


On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 11:09:46AM -0800, Jonathan Foote wrote:
> I apologize for using the "T" word -- you will notice it does not
> appear in the message body.
> 
> I feel like your response delegitimizes my concerns.
> 
> Would you be willing to discuss them, rather than my terminology?
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at appelbaum.net> wrote:
> > Jonathan Foote wrote:
> >> So where exactly is the consensus on this?
> >>
> >> They may have had cool logos, but let's not forget the RAF and the
> >> Weather Underground committed acts of violence against civilians.
> >> The RAF killed 34 people in bombings and shootings. The WU was
> >> clueless as well as well as violent, killing its own members with an
> >> ineptly constructed nail bomb.
> >>
> >> None of this constitutes excellence in my book.
> >>
> >> How is the new logo not representative of -- or linked to -- violence
> >> and ineptitude?
> >>
> >
> > I think you've committed the 21st century version of Godwin's law by
> > calling the new logo terrorism. We need a word for that; anyone?
> >
> > Best,
> > Jake
> >
> >
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