[Noisebridge-discuss] [drama] New logo = terrorism?

[jim]

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On Sat, 2010-01-09 at 16:32 -0800, John Magolske wrote:
> Noisebridge was my first exposure to hackerspaces. It impressed me
> to see folks actively reclaiming the term "hacker" from mainstream
> culture's association of that term with malevolent, criminal activity.
> What draws me to Noisebridge is the Maker ethos of community gathering
> to collaborate in constructive ways, building things and sharing
> knowledge. People helping people, that sort of thing. Anyhow, just
> my perspective, I'm sure everyone's got their own idea of what
> Noisebridge & "hacking" is all about.
> 
> >From https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Logo @ 2010/01/09 Sat 14:41 PST:
> 
>   "This image is inspired by the CCC Sterntastatur (logo here)[1],
>   the RAF (logo here)[2], the Weather Underground (logo here)[3]
>   and San Francisco (hacker) Values."
> 
>   [1] https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Image:Sterntastatur.png
>   [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RAF-Logo.svg
>   [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Weather_Underground_logo.jpg
> 
> Not sure why anyone's inspired by the Weather Underground's approach.
> The strategies they chose in their attempt to affect change in society
> ended up being totally counter-productive IMO (brings to mind the term
> "counterproductiveculture"). Kidnappings, nailbombs & bank robberies?
> In addition to being hurtful and ultimately ineffective, this is a
> rather unimaginative response. The violence begets violence begets
> violence ad nauseam thing has been going on for many millennia; the WU
> were not being particularly clever or unique.
> 
> In terms of where we draw inspiration from as a community, I'd hope we
> could find models that engage more creativity and respect for life.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> * Jonathan Foote <jtfoote at ieee.org> [100109 12:09]:
> > They may have had cool logos, but let's not forget the RAF and the
> > Weather Underground committed acts of violence against civilians.
> > The RAF killed 34 people in bombings and shootings. The WU was
> > clueless as well as well as violent, killing its own members with an
> > ineptly constructed nail bomb.
> 
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