[Noisebridge-discuss] NoisyCalendary

[Ever Falling]

i suggest barcode tattoo's on the neck, an RFID chips in the wrist, and a
'true identity' NB card with a unique passkey for everyone who walks into
the space.

On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Ian Atha <thatha at thatha.org> wrote:

> We could have an optional organiser field for each event created.
> During a meeting two weeks ago, someone mentioned that "it's nice to
> have events sponsored by a member". Anything other than that is
> impossible, or we would be fooling ourselves, given our current
> infrastructure.
>
> That's to say, I have no clue who "Ever Falling" is, if they are a
> member, or if they are to be trusted. I have no way of actually
> associating that guy who introduced himself as "Leif" to me with
> "leif at synthesize.us", other than good faith. I have no problem
> extending that good faith to people editing the wiki putting a "name"
> (or a moniker, or whatever).
>
> If someone really wants authentication and authorization for reserving
> resources, I would really like to hear a full-fledged proposal. How do
> we associate monikers with faces? How do we associate monikers with
> usernames? Who validates that? Who says "thatha" is a trusted person,
> but not "anonymous_user_1234"?
>
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 20:59, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
> >
> >   makes sense.
> >   i wasn't worried about spam-like robots, mainly
> > some way to manage contention for resources, also
> > to minimize pranks and malice.
> >   non-logged in edits seem fine, but people so
> > doing and who want to claim a resource should
> > identify themselves somehow or another, it seems
> > to me.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 2010-01-23 at 18:35 -0800, Leif Ryge wrote:
> >> So-called "anonymous" edits on mediawiki are really a misnomer - it is
> more accurate to describe them as non-logged-in edits, since they are
> actually attributed to an IP address which is potentially much less
> anonymous than logging in with a pseudonym.
> >>
> >> The reason to allow them is convenience and the increased participationn
> that results from that. People are much more likely to edit the wiki if
> there are no barriers to doing so, and the small hassle of picking a name
> and password is a significant barrier. On the other hand, requiring login to
> edit achieves absolutely nothing, unless you also restrict account creation
> (which would obviously be a much bigger barrier and reduce the use(fulness)
> of the wiki). I'm an admin on a couple of wikis which do require a login to
> edit, and let me tell you: spam robots figured out how to create mediawiki
> accounts a *long* time ago.
> >>
> >> So, I think we should continue to allow non-logged-in edits on the wiki,
> and by extension the calendar, so that forgetting one's password (or not
> wanting to create yet another) is no excuse for not putting something on it.
> >>
> >> ~leif
> >>
> >> p.s.: notes from Ian and me meeting today are at
> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/NoiseCal
> >>
> >> ----- Original message -----
> >> >
> >> >      oh, i don't get why anonymous edits:
> >> >      anonymity seems antithetical to accountabilty, and
> >> > it seems to me things that our community depends on
> >> > ought to have some accountability track: who's claiming
> >> > what resources and why. requiring a name also reduces
> >> > the vulnerability to malice and pranks.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, 2010-01-23 at 13:36 -0800, Ian Atha wrote:
> >> > > Hey folks,
> >> > >
> >> > > Leif and I are meeting up at 2169 today circa 3pm to brainstorm
> about
> >> > > the implementation of the One True Noisebridge Calendar. If you have
> >> > > anything you'd like us to consider now's the time to speak!
> >> > >
> >> > > For your reference, voilá Kelly's specs:
> >> > >
> >> > > - Publicly editable, anonymously editable
> >> > > - Publicly linkable
> >> > > - Has the usual variety of calendar layouts (day, week, month, list)
> >> > > - The usual calendar capabilities (description field, repeating
> events)
> >> > > - iCal feed, RSS feed
> >> > > - Some sort of feed which can auto-update the wiki homepage
> >> > > - Probably free
> >> > > - Hosted locally(ish)
> >> > >
> >> > > And bonus options:
> >> > > - Can use wiki logins or some other kind of identification in
> addition
> >> > > to anonymous
> >> > > - Events have a field for which room/area of NB
> >> > > - Calendars show which room/area of NB
> >> > > - open source or some other moral superiority
> >> > > - easy publishing to email (for nb-announce, for instance)
> >> > > - misc bells and whistles
> >> > >
> >> > > I'd heart you so much more if we keep this thread relevant!
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -ian.
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