[Noisebridge-discuss] Arduino!

Mike Schachter mike at mindmech.com
Sat Jul 10 00:31:23 UTC 2010


And another thing - if someone is holding a for-profit class, what is to
stop anyone from sitting there and listening in? If someone at noisebridge
told me to leave a class because I didn't pay, I'd tell them to fuck off.

  mike




On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Mike Schachter <mike at mindmech.com> wrote:

> I think there's various concerns:
>
> 1) Would someone paying money for a class expect priority over
> someone who is just sitting around at NB? What about when a for-
> profit meetup conflicts with a regular NB meetup? I would imagine
> this situation to be more tense than usual because of profit concerns,
> especially given the unpredictable nature of the space.
>
> 2) Any for-profit class is going to take up space at NB and thus
> money should go to NB. Profit sharing with NB should be mandated
> (if such a rule is even possible). I would suggest 75% to NB, 25% to
> the person giving the class.
>
> 3) There should be a cap on the per-person/hour charge on the class,
> Gian mentioned $25/hour. I think that's even alot. It rules out low
> income people and maybe not in the spirit of a community-serving 501c3.
>
> 4) There should be complete transparency regarding where the money
> comes from and goes.
>
> I was hoping to give a linear algebra class at NB some time in the near
> future (like within the next 3 months), in the form of a fund raiser where
> most of the profit goes to NB - so whatever comes of this discussion is
> pretty relevant!
>
>     mike
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Gian Pablo Villamil <gian.pablo at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Philosophically, I don't think charging for classes is a problem at all.
>>
>> At NYC Resistor it was usual to charge anywhere up to $25/hour per
>> student, and classes still filled up. Revenue was shared 50/50 with
>> the space.
>>
>> Would it be worthwhile to do a kind of $10 recommended donation type deal?
>>
>> Of course, NYCR was not a 501(c), so perhaps things are different.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Michael Shiloh
>> <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Wow! What a great class. I was as exhausted but energized from so many
>> > interesting and (apparently) eager students. We covered basic
>> > electronics, basic programming, and basic Arduino in about 2 hours. I
>> > think we're all eager to do more advanced exercises at the next meeting.
>> >
>> > There seems to be interest in doing this weekly. I'm certainly up for
>> > this, but have to balance this against the other responsibilities in my
>> > life.
>> >
>> > I have an idea. If I can make a bit of money doing this I can do one
>> > less money earning activity, and thus free up the time to do the Arduino
>> > class.
>> >
>> > If so, I'm thinking of something pretty small, like perhaps $5-$10
>> > sliding scale, with no one turned away for lack of funds.
>> >
>> > Questions:
>> >
>> > (1) Is it permissible to request money at NB?
>> > (2) Would this policy cause you not to come?
>> > (3) Would you be interested in an Arduino companion kit of components,
>> > solderless breadboard, and wire sold pretty much at cost? I'm thinking
>> > of things like LEDs, switches, light sensors, potentiometers, and a
>> > motor. I think we could do this for about $20.
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