[Noisebridge-discuss] Science for Juggalos

Christie Dudley longobord at gmail.com
Thu Jun 3 21:55:15 UTC 2010


You mean the Pyramids aren't taken?  Frankly, I find it really wondrous how
they managed to roll stuff uphill.  If I had the courage to do this (and I
may yet), I'd grab a pile of pencils and a brick and talk about how neat it
was how they figured out how to move really f'ckin' huge rocks around
without cranes or even jacks.  A "miracle" of ingenuity that doesn't take
anything hard to understand at all!  I'd have juggalos playing with the
pencils, dammit.

Another "miracle" that comes to mind is how everyone around the world gets
to look up to the skies and see the same stars at night (at least in this
hemisphere).  That's a connectedness thing that has got to resonate.

The Miracles of Science, no?

Christie
_______
"Battle not with monsters lest ye become a monster;
and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes into you." - Friedrich
Nietzsche


On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net> wrote:

> There was a meeting, it went well, and the discussion in the space
> picked up a few people who hadn't already heard about the Science
> Fair. The general consensus was that we don't necessarily want to
> antagonize the juggalos, as this will give them even more reason to
> hate rational thought, we just want to try to educate them.
>
> It was brought up that ICP has since stated that they understand the
> things from the song are not 'miracles' in the definitive sense, but
> are just wondrous things to observe, so any argument that "the
> pyramids aren't miracles" would be counterproductive, and instead we
> should focus on topics like "here's how the pyramids were built, isn't
> engineering awesome?" We have scientists for at least the following:
>
> Fire
> Magnets
> Rainbows
> Cognitive Dissonance
> The Genetics of Long Necked Giraffes
>
> and we have more people interested who haven't yet called dibs on a
> subject.
>
> We're going to show up Saturday at 4pm to make our science fair
> posters and prepare, then leave around 5:30 to get on BART and head
> down to the Warfield until it gets boring/dangerous, and then head
> back to NB to get drunk, post the videos to youtube, and revel in our
> success.
>
> --
> Hephaestus
>
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > wasn't there a meeting tonight? how'd that go? are details gonna be on
> the
> > wiki or are they already?
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Corey McGuire <coreyfro at coreyfro.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> This is exactly why I don't debate anyone studied enough to be adept at
> >> debating, yet incapable of doing the basic research to understand
> concepts
> >> like evolution or climate change.
> >>
> >> For instance: Kirk Cameron is a very skilled debater.  He's obviously
> >> received training and spent many hours composing the arguments to be
> used
> >> against people who support the theory of evolution.  I've watched him go
> toe
> >> to toe at debates on his home turf, obviously entrapping the people he's
> >> debating.  These are obvious and intricate traps.  This man has made it
> his
> >> life's WORK getting scientists to generate media buzz for him and he
> doesn't
> >> intend on backing down...
> >>
> >> ...yet he can't take a 10 minute journey though the Magical Land of
> Google
> >> to figure out why the "Croc-a-duck" argument is fucking retarded.
> >>
> >> They aren't looking to be right, they are looking for attention.  ICP,
> for
> >> record sales, Kirk Cameron, probably for political ambitions.
> >>
> >> But I think everyone here should have fun.  You know you are generating
> >> more media buzz for ICP, but you are also going to have a wicked time,
> get
> >> your own slice of attention, and hopefully get Noisebridge a bunch, too.
> >> Probably from the choir you are preaching to, probably a choir that
> would
> >> love to learn about and maybe even join or emulate Noisebridge.
> >>
> >> Don't forget the body armor.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Rev. Dan <doktahworm at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone considered the fact that more effort has been spent
> >>> discussing this that will likely be spent thinking, at all, by folks
> >>> who reject science in favor of willfull ignorance?
> >>>
> >>> I think the only real evangelism that can/ could happen would
> >>> essentially just be preaching to the choir.  It sounds like this could
> >>> be fun for its own sake; but having expectations beyond dressing up
> >>> and having a good time might be not be all that reasonable.
> >>>
> >>> I'd be willing to wager that ICP wrote the song to be gratuitously
> >>> controversial (ala GG Allin) and might well find the whole thing to be
> >>> entertaining.  (OMG, look at these "smart" people pissing themselves
> >>> 'cause of our stupid song... bwuahahah... Woot, free publicity!)
> >>>
> >>> You can lead a horse to water, but you can't convince him to do
> algebra.
> >>>
> >>> - Dan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jun 1, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Jesse Zbikowski
> >>> <embeddedlinuxguy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > You might consider dressing as a wizard, because rainbows and magnets
> >>> > are surely, in addition to their well known physical properties, also
> >>> > magic.
> >>> >
> >>> > Science is at least as much about an awe of the mystery of the
> >>> > universe as it is about learning explanations from other people.
> >>> >
> >>> > It might be more effective in evoking scientific curiosity to show
> off
> >>> > some cool magnet and rainbow effects, without any explanation.
> >>> >
> >>> > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Don French <dcfrench at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> >> Meant to send this to the list.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -- Don
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Also worth watching:
> >>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGy64NJWotg&feature=related
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -- Don
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Douglas Worley
> >>> >> <daworley at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> For reference:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs&feature=youtube_gdata
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi08uLTOGxs&feature=youtube_gdata
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Cheers,
> >>> >>>   - Dougie
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Sent from my tricorder.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On May 28, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net>
> >>> >>> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>> Next Saturday, June 5th, is the ICP concert at the Warfield
> >>> >>>> Theater on
> >>> >>>> Market St.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> That evening, between 6-9pm as the juggalos are gathering, but
> >>> >>>> hopefully not too drunk and angry yet, we'll be setting up a
> >>> >>>> science
> >>> >>>> fair to teach them how magnets, rainbows, and giraffes work. If
> >>> >>>> you'd
> >>> >>>> like to help with this science fair, please come to NB next
> >>> >>>> Saturday
> >>> >>>> at 5pm with a science fair project (that's either cheap or not
> >>> >>>> easily
> >>> >>>> broken). The theme of your project should reflect one of the
> >>> >>>> 'miracles' in the latest ICP music video.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Even if you don't want to demonstrate magnetism to juggalos, you
> >>> >>>> can
> >>> >>>> still participate, as we will need security and a camera crew to
> >>> >>>> document the project.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> --
> >>> >>>> Hephaestus
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