[Noisebridge-discuss] Science for Juggalos

Thu Jun 3 21:57:03 UTC 2010

I'm still not sure on my availability for Saturday night, but if
anyone needs a hand with posters or science projects, please let me
know if I can be of assistance.

I also posted a blurb about the event on Laughing Squid
http://laughingsquid.com/noisebridge-presents-science-for-juggalos/

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net> wrote:
> There was a meeting, it went well, and the discussion in the space
> picked up a few people who hadn't already heard about the Science
> Fair. The general consensus was that we don't necessarily want to
> antagonize the juggalos, as this will give them even more reason to
> hate rational thought, we just want to try to educate them.
>
> It was brought up that ICP has since stated that they understand the
> things from the song are not 'miracles' in the definitive sense, but
> are just wondrous things to observe, so any argument that "the
> pyramids aren't miracles" would be counterproductive, and instead we
> should focus on topics like "here's how the pyramids were built, isn't
> engineering awesome?" We have scientists for at least the following:
>
> Fire
> Magnets
> Rainbows
> Cognitive Dissonance
> The Genetics of Long Necked Giraffes
>
> and we have more people interested who haven't yet called dibs on a subject.
>
> We're going to show up Saturday at 4pm to make our science fair
> posters and prepare, then leave around 5:30 to get on BART and head
> down to the Warfield until it gets boring/dangerous, and then head
> back to NB to get drunk, post the videos to youtube, and revel in our
> success.
>
> --
> Hephaestus
>
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com> wrote:
>> wasn't there a meeting tonight? how'd that go? are details gonna be on the
>> wiki or are they already?
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Corey McGuire <coreyfro at coreyfro.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is exactly why I don't debate anyone studied enough to be adept at
>>> debating, yet incapable of doing the basic research to understand concepts
>>> like evolution or climate change.
>>>
>>> For instance: Kirk Cameron is a very skilled debater.  He's obviously
>>> received training and spent many hours composing the arguments to be used
>>> against people who support the theory of evolution.  I've watched him go toe
>>> to toe at debates on his home turf, obviously entrapping the people he's
>>> debating.  These are obvious and intricate traps.  This man has made it his
>>> life's WORK getting scientists to generate media buzz for him and he doesn't
>>> intend on backing down...
>>>
>>> ...yet he can't take a 10 minute journey though the Magical Land of Google
>>> to figure out why the "Croc-a-duck" argument is fucking retarded.
>>>
>>> They aren't looking to be right, they are looking for attention.  ICP, for
>>> record sales, Kirk Cameron, probably for political ambitions.
>>>
>>> But I think everyone here should have fun.  You know you are generating
>>> more media buzz for ICP, but you are also going to have a wicked time, get
>>> your own slice of attention, and hopefully get Noisebridge a bunch, too.
>>> Probably from the choir you are preaching to, probably a choir that would
>>> love to learn about and maybe even join or emulate Noisebridge.
>>>
>>> Don't forget the body armor.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Rev. Dan <doktahworm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone considered the fact that more effort has been spent
>>>> discussing this that will likely be spent thinking, at all, by folks
>>>> who reject science in favor of willfull ignorance?
>>>>
>>>> I think the only real evangelism that can/ could happen would
>>>> essentially just be preaching to the choir.  It sounds like this could
>>>> be fun for its own sake; but having expectations beyond dressing up
>>>> and having a good time might be not be all that reasonable.
>>>>
>>>> I'd be willing to wager that ICP wrote the song to be gratuitously
>>>> controversial (ala GG Allin) and might well find the whole thing to be
>>>> entertaining.  (OMG, look at these "smart" people pissing themselves
>>>> 'cause of our stupid song... bwuahahah... Woot, free publicity!)
>>>>
>>>> You can lead a horse to water, but you can't convince him to do algebra.
>>>>
>>>> - Dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 1, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Jesse Zbikowski
>>>> <embeddedlinuxguy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > You might consider dressing as a wizard, because rainbows and magnets
>>>> > are surely, in addition to their well known physical properties, also
>>>> > magic.
>>>> >
>>>> > Science is at least as much about an awe of the mystery of the
>>>> > universe as it is about learning explanations from other people.
>>>> >
>>>> > It might be more effective in evoking scientific curiosity to show off
>>>> > some cool magnet and rainbow effects, without any explanation.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Don French <dcfrench at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> Meant to send this to the list.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -- Don
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Also worth watching:
>>>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGy64NJWotg&feature=related
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -- Don
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Douglas Worley
>>>> >> <daworley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> For reference:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs&feature=youtube_gdata
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi08uLTOGxs&feature=youtube_gdata
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Cheers,
>>>> >>>   - Dougie
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Sent from my tricorder.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On May 28, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net>
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Next Saturday, June 5th, is the ICP concert at the Warfield
>>>> >>>> Theater on
>>>> >>>> Market St.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> That evening, between 6-9pm as the juggalos are gathering, but
>>>> >>>> hopefully not too drunk and angry yet, we'll be setting up a
>>>> >>>> science
>>>> >>>> fair to teach them how magnets, rainbows, and giraffes work. If
>>>> >>>> you'd
>>>> >>>> like to help with this science fair, please come to NB next
>>>> >>>> Saturday
>>>> >>>> at 5pm with a science fair project (that's either cheap or not
>>>> >>>> easily
>>>> >>>> broken). The theme of your project should reflect one of the
>>>> >>>> 'miracles' in the latest ICP music video.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Even if you don't want to demonstrate magnetism to juggalos, you
>>>> >>>> can
>>>> >>>> still participate, as we will need security and a camera crew to
>>>> >>>> document the project.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> --
>>>> >>>> Hephaestus
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