[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge Executive Director

Rachel McConnell rachel at xtreme.com
Mon Mar 1 00:08:35 UTC 2010


Apparently because nearly everyone is happy with Mitch.

Christie Dudley wrote:
> What about the other candidates?
> 
> Who has thoughts on Mikolaj?
> 
> Who has thoughts on Lief?
> 
> Why aren't we talking about anyone but Mitch?
> 
> Christie
> _______
> "We also briefly discussed having officers replaced by very small shell
> scripts." -- Noisebridge meeting notes 2008-06-17
> 
> The outer bounds is only the beginning.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/genriel/sets/72157623376093724/
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Rachel McConnell <rachel at xtreme.com
> <mailto:rachel at xtreme.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Christie, here are some thoughts I had regarding your position on Mitch
>     as ED.
> 
>     I understand why you would object to an 'absentee' ED.  I posit to you
>     that there are significant benefits as well.  Noisebridge has an
>     extraordinarily rich interaction with other hackerspaces (and generally
>     cool people) *worldwide*, due primarily to our roving ambassadors, Jake
>     and Mitch.  We've got relationships with hackers not only in Chicago,
>     Toronto, Atlanta, etc in North America, but also in Germany and Japan,
>     and probably others I'm not yet aware of.
> 
>     Have you asked Mitch if his schedule will continue to be that he's gone
>     a great deal of the time?  It may be that he'll be around more in 2010,
>     which would allow him to keep more abreast of the activities of the
>     organization.
> 
>     To address your issue further: regarding keeping abreast of the ongoing
>     needs of the organization, we've been pretty clear that this is not
>     actually the business of the ED, but of the members.  The ED is *not*
>     our leader.  I believe you might respond to this that the ED is
>     perceived as such by outsiders, and I would respond to that with, how
>     does that cause a problem for us?
> 
>     Rachel
> 
>     Christie Dudley wrote:
>     > My issues with Mitch are fairly minor.  I think he's a great
>     person, but
>     > he's not terribly involved in the immediate Noisebridge community.
>      He's
>     > just not around much and doesn't keep abreast of the breadth of
>     totally
>     > excellent things going on at Noisebridge, or the ongoing needs of the
>     > organization.
>     >
>     > In addition to the 'representational' part that Vlad brought up
>     (can he
>     > represent us well if he doesn't know us well?) It is the ED's job to
>     > call the board meetings, set the agenda and preside.  I think
>     Rachel has
>     > been doing a fine job of this so far, but it's not her job.  (Legally,
>     > according to the bylaws)  I'd really like to see an ED who can do the
>     > job, who understands when board meetings are needed and will make that
>     > happen.
>     >
>     > I think Mitch could do a fair job of muddling through if there were no
>     > other candidates.  But there are other candidates who are much more
>     > capable of doing a good job with what little is required of them.  It
>     > appalls me that we have to have the choice of the board as our only
>     > option, especially when it's not the best one.
>     >
>     > I don't understand why this discussion keeps coming back to Mitch/Not
>     > Mitch.  I thought it was the will of the members to decide who.
>      Why are
>     > we not comparing Mitch/Mikolaj/whoever?  This false dichotomy is
>     killing
>     > serious consideration of the candidates.
>     >
>     > We already decided at the meeting this coming week that we would *not*
>     > try to form a consensus on the candidates for ED, but rather narrow it
>     > down to one to consense on next week.  WHY do we keep coming back to
>     > this whole false dichotomy?
>     >
>     > Christie
>     > _______
>     > "We also briefly discussed having officers replaced by very small
>     shell
>     > scripts." -- Noisebridge meeting notes 2008-06-17
>     >
>     > The outer bounds is only the beginning.
>     > http://www.flickr.com/photos/genriel/sets/72157623376093724/
>     >
>     >
>     > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Ani Niow <v at oneletterwonder.com
>     <mailto:v at oneletterwonder.com>
>     > <mailto:v at oneletterwonder.com <mailto:v at oneletterwonder.com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     I would like to formally re-nominate Mitch for the position of the
>     >     Executive Director of Noisebridge.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >     -Ani
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >     On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Jeffrey Malone
>     >     <ieatlint at tehinterweb.com <mailto:ieatlint at tehinterweb.com>
>     <mailto:ieatlint at tehinterweb.com <mailto:ieatlint at tehinterweb.com>>>
>     wrote:
>     >
>     >         On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Sai Emrys
>     >         <noisebridge at saizai.com <mailto:noisebridge at saizai.com>
>     <mailto:noisebridge at saizai.com <mailto:noisebridge at saizai.com>>> wrote:
>     >         > On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Andy Isaacson
>     >         <adi at hexapodia.org <mailto:adi at hexapodia.org>
>     <mailto:adi at hexapodia.org <mailto:adi at hexapodia.org>>> wrote:
>     >         >> We currently have all of these things.  AFAIK, until the
>     >         board appoints
>     >         >> a new ED, Jake continues in his appointment from last year.
>     >         >
>     >         > That's my reading as well. Officers serve until
>     replaced; Board
>     >         > members have terms of office.
>     >         >
>     >
>     >         Actually, you have that kind of backwards.
>     >         Both have terms -- 1 year.  Board members remain in office
>     until
>     >         they
>     >         are replaced.
>     >         There is no such clause for officers.  Our bylaws state that
>     >         they must
>     >         be appointed annually, and as the year ran up at the
>     beginning of
>     >         October, so did the term for all three officer positions.
>     >
>     >         Noisebridge has been without an ED since October.  This
>     has been
>     >         stated at a board meeting and a general meeting.
>     >         In fact, two board members even tried to simply appoint an
>     ED at the
>     >         last board meeting to "fix" this.  They even planned to do so
>     >         without
>     >         consulting the members before conceding to objections that
>     while the
>     >         legal authority exists for them to do that, it runs completely
>     >         against
>     >         Noisebridge policy.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >         In general, I would like to thank all of you for turning
>     this into a
>     >         discussion about what people feel the ED is, and absolutely
>     >         nothing to
>     >         do with actually selecting a new one.
>     >         You might argue that you feel defining the role is the
>     same thing.
>     >         It's not -- who it is, and what they will be doing are two
>     different
>     >         controversial subjects.  Intertwining them has, as best I
>     can tell,
>     >         resulted in absolutely no progress on either side.
>     >
>     >         So any chance this can get back on topic to its original
>     intent of
>     >         nominating people for the ED?  Or should I simply give up?
>     >
>     >         Jeffrey
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