[Noisebridge-discuss] Frantisek is going to stop living at Noisebridge starting tonight.

[Albert Sweigart]

I’ll be repeating a lot of what I said in my original email, but
here’s my reply.

> I gotta say - what a bummer to name Frantisek specifically on an open, public, archived mailing list.

I said this in my original email, but: I know, but this is not
something that I can fix personally and so I reached out to the
general NB community. I considered the transparency vs. privacy and
made a decision. We can just delete it from the archives if it is a
big deal. (I don’t really think that’s Orwellian.)

> I agree with some of the things you've stated - though I personally do not care if Frantisek sleeps at Noisebridge irregularly.

I said this in my original email, but: This isn’t about Frantisek
sleeping at NB, it’s about him living there.

> If someone generally misses BART…

This isn’t relevant. People miss BART by accident and on occasion. My
email was about a person living at NB.

> I understand the principles at play and I can't fucking live with myself if I'm pushing him into the winter rain.

Hep brought up a number of alternatives and he has plenty of friends.
“Pushing him into the winter rain” is a stretch.

> I'd probably resign my fiscal sponsorship if anyone seriously made it
"their cause" at Noisebridge to toss out Frantisek

I said this in my original email, but: This isn’t about kicking out
Frantisek from Noisebridge, this is about not allowing him to live at
Noisebridge. I have overwhelming heard from the membership that we
don’t want people turning Noisebridge into their residence, and I
would like to see this applied equally and fairly.

> … make a new hacker space in Mexico - I guess that means his intentions are quite
clearly to spread Noisebridge south. So how much do we want to press
this issue? How important is it to you?

It’s important to most of the membership. It’s just important enough
for me that I write an email about it to start discussion. We
shouldn’t ignore this though. Until plans for Noisebridge Mexico are
concrete, Frantisek would still be living at Noisebridge for “just a
few more days”.

> But I think that not being upset about someone missing BART and then being upset about sleeping on a sofa for other reasons is pretty lame.

This isn’t relevant. People miss BART by accident and on occasion. My
email was about a person living at NB.

> In any case: Who outed a person by name on a mailing list and in effect created a possibly heavy handed punitive measure that is long lasting?

Frantisek has admit to me that he knows how NB feels about people
living in the space. And I said in my email that I don't want
Frantisek kicked out. I don't think "you can't live at Noisebridge" is
a "heavy handed punitive measure".

> I agree that we made an agreement. I also understand that we make exceptions to the agreement.

This is on a different topic, but I think the vagueness of these
"exceptions" is at the top of the list of Things That Noisebridge
Needs To Fix. The lack of rules does allow us flexibility, but at the
same time if I see an abuse of the space, I'm not sure what accepted
recourse I have. Is politely but firmly pointing out the problem in no
uncertain terms crossing the line?

-Al