[Noisebridge-discuss] [drama] Frantisek is going to stop living at Noisebridge starting tonight.

[Corey McGuire]

Dude is cleaning the place and has been for the past half hour. He'll
probably cook something later today.  A few more of these "fucking bums" and
this place will be ready for Sunset Magazine.

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:

> Okay everyone, I have a few disclaimers but i'll make them at the end.
>
> I have a lot of experience with communal spaces, mostly the kind in which
> people live despite the lease saying explicitly that it is forbidden.
>
> I want to say that people are failing to appreciate what a valuable
> SERVICE Frantisek has been granting to Noisebridge, FOR FREE, by being
> present as often as he is.
>
> I doubt anyone will argue that he understands and embodies the most
> important aspects of our purpose with the space, with the exception of
> "living there."  To have someone who makes a great representative for our
> collective attitude be present in the space as often as he is, is great.
>
> Business in the mission which are OPEN FOR BUSINESS with employees running
> the show PAY a person JUST TO STAND THERE for security.  For anyone on
> this list to think that Noisebridge does not need a person there just to
> keep things cool is folly.
>
> I feel much more comfortable about our valuable equipment and beautiful
> hackerspace with a person like Frantisek around when I can't be there.
> I am sure he has explained to countless people what the space was about,
> but more importantly, he has shown countless people that our space is not
> without a pair of eyes on it at all times.
>
> From a practical standpoint, the "lease" argument is red herring.  The
> landlord doesn't care, and the "building department" which I have
> personally dealt with several times, would absolutely not care even if
> they were to somehow teleport into the space and find him sleeping in the
> tea room.  The place is obviously not a residence.
>
> I have lived in two warehouses which are the primary residences for a
> dozen or more people, which had to prepare for inspections specifically
> called to cause their eviction, and witnessed the aftermath of two other
> such inspections.  To say that Noisebridge makes the radar is just false.
>
> From a practical standpoint, Frantisek's presence negatively affects
> NOBODY unless someone really needs to use the tea-room in the middle of
> the night, which is a small inconvenience compared with the valuable
> service previously mentioned.
>
> What I believe is happening here is that one or more people are having a
> hard time internalizing conflicting concepts.  When one knows that the
> rules say that no-one can live at Noisebridge, but simultaniously knows
> that someone is living at noisebridge (what a funny expression), an
> interrupt is triggered and an email is composed and sent to the list.
>
> What is the problem with a contradiction, if everything is working?
>
> By the way, that is a rhetorical question.  The answer to the above Koan
> is no-thing, and the thread ends here.
>
> my disclaimer is that i have not read all the other posts on this topic.
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