[Noisebridge-discuss] Request for Expertise: Java EE

[Mike Schachter]

Back when I was a J2EE developer I would use tomcat or JBoss
to get started:

http://tomcat.apache.org/

http://www.jboss.org/

That was a while ago. For frameworks, people I was around used
Spring and Struts:

http://www.springsource.org/

http://struts.apache.org/

My humble suggestion, not to conflict with William's, would be
learn JSP/Servlets, and understand the web.xml file. Then build
your webapp's .war files and learn how to deploy them. You probably
already know this. Ignore EJBs unless you specifically need them
for a job. JDBC is important to know of. JavaServerFaces is something
people use I guess too.

  mike






On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:06 AM, William Sargent <will.sargent at gmail.com>wrote:

>  On 10/18/2010 8:53 PM, Gardner wrote:
> > Hello,
> >   I have a strong command of the Java language and I have recently
> > been teaching myself Java EE using NetBeans and GlassFish. I find
> > myself getting hung up on simple configuration issues that take me
> > hours to resolve. Are there any NoiseBridgers out there that know this
> > stuff like the back of their hand? Does anyone want to do an informal
> > introductory session?
> >
>
> This is the problem with J2EE -- it's just a bitch to learn and most of
> it is configuration stuff you'll need to know once after which you'll
> never need it again.
>
> The good news is that J2EE isn't one technology.  It's a bunch of
> different libraries glommed together with some marketing.  So while
> you'll need the servlet API, there are several less useful parts of the
> spec that you can safely ignore (i.e. JSF, the web framework so useless
> it couldn't even support HTTP GET in its first version.)
>
> If you want to do something useful with J2EE, probably the first thing
> to do is download a working J2EE application and see what you can take
> apart.  There is a framework called "AppFuse Light"
> (https://appfuse-light.dev.java.net/) which may be a little out of date
> (not stared at it recently) but should give you at least an idea of how
> the different pieces fit together.
>
> And... well, you're not alone.  This is what happened when I first got
> to grips with it: http://tersesystems.com/2005/10
>
> Will.
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