[Noisebridge-discuss] Unwelcome person at noisebridge

[Robert Fletcher]

All considered, I think the model works out pretty well, even if we do have
to kick out some unsavory characters from time to time.  The nice thing is
that with things the way they are anybody can feel enabled to tell someone
they're out of line.  None of us have any real authority in the space, but
we still took it upon ourselves to boot him when it was clear he was not
very awesome.  (And, incidentally, someone called us out on being too loud a
little later in the evening.)

It would be nice to have a number we could call to help deal with people
like that and see that they end up in a safe place.  One of my roommates
mentioned something along those lines.  I'll check into it and post it back
here if it seems useful.

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Michael Ashmore <motomike at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hm. So a weakness of hackerspaces, from a threat modeling perspective,
> appears to be the injection of undesirable personalities / the mentally ill.
> Like, what the fuck do you do about those guys?
>
> I mean, seriously.
>
> Makes you remember what locks were originally invented for. Freaky, huh?
>
> -Moto
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Robert Fletcher <lobatifricha at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I did say kicked out.  Three of us went over to him and told him that he
>> was being very disruptive and that he'd have to leave.  He said he'd be
>> quiet and that he was leaving soon anyway.  He stuck his head in a book and
>> we went back to what we were doing.  Within a few minutes he was back
>> riffling through boxes and making weird gestures and comments.  We got back
>> up and told him he had to go or we would call the cops.  After some bustling
>> about ("I have to run to the bathroom", "Is this mine? I'm not sure if I
>> brought this...", "Let me check on the bottom side of this chair to see if
>> anything of mine is under there.") we finally convinced him that it was safe
>> to leave and escorted him out the front door.  Thankfully it was a peaceful
>> encounter, if prolonged and particularly awkward.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Neil Kandalgaonkar <neilk at brevity.org>wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/19/10 10:29 PM, Robert Fletcher wrote:
>>>
>>>> We kicked someone by a similar description out of Noisebridge Saturday
>>>> afternoon.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I assume you meant to say "kicked out".
>>>
>>> How did you remove him?
>>>
>>>
>>>   He was climbing on desks, rooting through boxes, ranting at
>>>> no one in particular and generally making a nuisance of himself.  He was
>>>> clearly beyond the level of imbalance we typically see at the space and
>>>> seemed to be a danger to himself and others.  He was wearing a hospital
>>>> gown and a skirt around his waist, neither of which hid much.  I gather
>>>> his name is Robert (Bobby) Owens.  Others said they have seen him at the
>>>> space before, though he seemed more subdued and sane on prior occasions.
>>>>
>>>> --Fletch
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net
>>>> <mailto:hephaestus at antipunk.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>    As we were leaving 2169 tonight, a man was coming into the space who
>>>>    was obviously unwelcome. Several members asked me to escort him out
>>>> of
>>>>    the space, and when I tried he got very hostile, loud, and
>>>> disruptive.
>>>>    Some members were obviously afraid of this man, and he was behaving
>>>> in
>>>>    an agressive manner while following them around the space very
>>>>    closely. When he failed to leave after several requests, we called
>>>> the
>>>>    police. The police eventually arrived, exclaiming 'NOT YOU AGAIN!',
>>>>    and quickly escorted him away.
>>>>
>>>>    He is 5'9, approximately 160lbs, Caucasian, balding white hair
>>>> trimmed
>>>>    very short, in his early to mid 50's, wearing an olive drab jacket, a
>>>>    yellow tie-died dress, brown cut off pants, flip flops, and a pastel
>>>>    blue baseball cap with a pink flower on it. If anybody got a picture
>>>>    it'd be helpful.
>>>>
>>>>      He is the person Shannon had to remove the other morning. Is he the
>>>>    person who showed up this morning without pants?
>>>>
>>>>    (p.s. Rubin, I fully expect you to carry out your threat to 'punch
>>>> the
>>>>    next person who calls the police to noisebridge.' It was me.)
>>>>
>>>>    --
>>>>    Hephaestus
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Neil Kandalgaonkar  |) <neilk at brevity.org>
>>>
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