[Noisebridge-discuss] Anti-piracy / anti-Pirate Bay law currently in Congress

[Thomas Stowe]

There's a bit of an educated guess that I agree with that Tor is
compromised. The Navy was doing stuff with it and then there were some
documents leaked to wikileaks because of an exit-point exploit and I'd
hazard to guess that anyone after that would've used the power of authority
to cause the EFF and others to put backdoors in their privacy software and
also full access to source. There are a few softwares like JAP (Jondonym)
that have been required to put a backdoor in that can be activated with a
warrant. Given the FBI's history of illegal wiretaps and overzealous
behavior of companies hired to track down piracy sites and large groups of
pirates I'd hazard to guess that Tor, VyprVPN, HideMyAss and everything else
is compromised. This guess gives me enough pause that I'd suggest that you
don't do anything stupid that you're afraid to get caught doing, ever. If
you can find a fool-proof anonymity plan, it's going to be illegal. Almost
all ways to get high speed Internet access anonymously are illegal and if
you do something via Tor, they're essentially going to go after the
exit-point's owner which is another Tor user offering anonymity services so
not only are you doing something stupid but you're putting the blame on
someone else for what you did. There've been cases of Child Porn
investigations and raids on innocent people because they were running Tor
servers who almost faced jail time and spent thousands of dollars defending
themselves in court and by that time they'd been in jail and on television
for being a sex offender interested in child porn. Don't be a douchebag, use
your own IP, whether you were issued it by your ISP or you buy it. If you
government or ISP blocks torrents, use a service that condones torrent usage
and don't "chance" screwing someone else's life up. Torrent "Seedboxes" can
still be purchased that will enable you to get all of your torrents faster,
anyhow. If you're too poor to pay for a seedbox or anonymity service, save
your money. If not, you're pretty much a scared human being who I have 0
respect for and if others understand exactly what you're doing to Tor users,
they will see you as a scared little person who doesn't care if they screw
others lives up. I hope that you folks take this into consideration. I know
about these technologies because I've used them in the past. I don't condone
piracy but if you're going to do it, don't give the EFF a bad name and that
goes doubly so to the people kind enough to offer their computers, time and
bandwidth to tor. Think back to the lady talking about the courts'
understanding of technologies and the Internet. Is a judge going to
understand that it was one of the people you offer anonymity services to?
I'd suggest that those of you who care about your future shut down tor exit
nodes that you run, but only because there's shitty people out there who
don't care if you go to jail because of their actions.




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On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Ryan Castellucci <
ryan.castellucci at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Sai <sai at saizai.com> wrote:
> > http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-20016995-261.html?tag=mncol;5n
> > http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-3804 (click 'full
> text')
> >
> > TL;DR: if media company convinces court that a site is for piracy,
> > they can get it completely blacklisted by US DNS servers & registrars,
> > and blacklisted from any payment systems.
> >
> > Obvious next steps:
> > a) they remove other undesirable things from the 'net (e.g. porn,
> > pro-pot advocacy, political dissidents, hackers...)
> > b) we completely blacklist US-based registrars, DNS servers, & payment
> systems
>
> Note: I do not advocate or condone piracy.
>
> They still don't understand. They start killing piracy sites? Tor is
> not hard to use, the masses are just waiting on a reason to use it. A
> Tor hidden service is plenty fast to run a torrent site on, and
> extremely difficult to take down. It's an arms race, and the pirates
> can move faster than their corporate and government adversaries.
>
> --
> Ryan Castellucci http://ryanc.org/
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