[Noisebridge-discuss] Anti-piracy / anti-Pirate Bay law currently in Congress

[Matt Joyce]

Let's not be bringing sparkle motion into this gutter.

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Meredith L. Patterson <
mlp at thesmartpolitenerd.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:33:03PM -0500, Thomas Stowe wrote:
> > if you do something via Tor, they're essentially going to go after the
> > exit-point's owner which is another Tor user offering anonymity services
> so
> > not only are you doing something stupid but you're putting the blame on
> > someone else for what you did.
>
> Wrong. Law enforcement may contact the owner of the exit node, but they
> can't prosecute the node's owner for someone else's activity. I know a
> number of anonymous remailer operators who have had to explain to LEOs that
> it is mathematically impossible for them to identify the sender of a message
> that came from their remailer; apparently the Secret Service is fairly
> clueful about this, the FBI not so much.
>
> > There've been cases of Child Porn
> > investigations and raids on innocent people because they were running Tor
> > servers who almost faced jail time and spent thousands of dollars
> defending
> > themselves in court and by that time they'd been in jail and on
> television
> > for being a sex offender interested in child porn.
>
> Where are you getting this bullshit? This has never happened in the United
> States. One exit node operator in Germany has had a couple of run-ins with
> the police, and he did the right thing and got a lawyer. He never spent a
> day in court.
>
> > I hope that you folks take this into consideration. I know
> > about these technologies because I've used them in the past.
>
> Given that you apparently haven't even read the first question in the Tor
> legal FAQ (http://www.torproject.org/eff/tor-legal-faq.html.en), I doubt
> your commitment to Sparkle Motion.
>
> --mlp
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