[Noisebridge-discuss] DEAD AIR

John Adams jna at retina.net
Tue Dec 6 20:08:35 UTC 2011


I'm trying to figure out if what you've posted is even remotely like
english here.

-j


On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:32 AM, ryan rawson <ryanobjc at gmail.com> wrote:

> It's a weird compliment. If twitter was unimportant then who cares. But
> because of its importance, people will demand more than platitudes. For now
> it's informal and leading edge thinkers like here on noisebridge. But as
> carrier iq found, things can go south very rapidly. Turns out they don't
> collect SMS and keystrokes but the damage is done. (nb: most carriers
> retain SMS content for at least 1-3 days)
>
> Sent from your iPhone
>
> On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:20 AM, John Adams <jna at retina.net> wrote:
>
> Honestly, our search just sucks.
>
> There is lots of bitching (internally) about fixing search and we just
> haven't done it.  Messages drop off after a day or so because the search
> system is separate from the main tweet storage db. That's why you see posts
> disappear after 24 hours or so.
>
> Instead of:
>
> https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/from%3Arabite
>
> Go to
>
> https://twitter.com/rabite
>
> ... and all the messages are there.
>
> Big brother is not here and not censoring. Chill.
>
> -j
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:31 PM, John Morgan <dr1ce315 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I certainly can't say for sure that twitter was censoring, and it
>> certainly could have been a bug.  One of the biggest things i've personally
>> noticed with twitter is I would see a bunch of retweets come through, and
>> then they would disappear the next day.  Only a few cases of tweets not
>> coming out at all.  The problem is not with twitter or their hard working
>> staff; it's with big brother that is going to come in and do whatever they
>> feel like with the cloud, including censoring twitter.  The necessity for
>> decentralized text messages is crucial if not today, in the near future..
>>
>>
>> Good thing I live in a Faraday cage, that tin foil hat sure gets
>> annoying...
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 9:10 PM, John Adams <jna at retina.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Ryan Rawson <ryanobjc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  However, this situation may be actually the case. The patriot act
>>>>> gives the US Government wide ranging powers. One of the major powers
>>>>> is the NSL and accompanying gag order.  Why a subpoena was used in the
>>>>> case you are describing is not clear, but almost certainly NSLs have
>>>>> been delivered to twitter and they have executed on it.  What else is
>>>>> in the bag of tricks?  Remember, the NSL gag orders threads are
>>>>> personal.  That means if the sysadmin who is requested to pull data
>>>>> blabs, then the federal government will put that person in jail.  Your
>>>>> legal department wont be able to do anything about it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I understand how NSLs work. I (may have) had to respond to some of them
>>>> (at some company) but I wouldn't be able to tell you if I (did or did not.)
>>>>
>>>> Warrants are used for account contacts and Subpoenas for information to
>>>> identify user accounts. The PATRIOT act allows for these requests but to
>>>> order a company to censor?
>>>>
>>>> I have never seen one with that sort of a request before, ever.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, I'd be very interested to hear about that. NSLs are used to obtain
>>> data, not block stuff.
>>>
>>> <http://weev.livejournal.com/401774.html>Still, the fact that
>>> https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/from%3Arabite returns nothing
>>> *is* kind of weird -- an indicator of a bug, if nothing else.
>>>
>>> I don't pretend to understand how the current terms of Weev's bail might
>>> intersect with all of this.
>>>
>>> d.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -j
>>>>
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