[Noisebridge-discuss] You and your pretty little Consensus Process too.

[Brian Morris]

No you just have been the victim of circumstances. May you be blessed with
better.

Then again maybe you are just forgetting.



On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com> wrote:

> then i suppose there's a difference between consensus in theory as opposed
> to practice.
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> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Brian Morris <cymraegish at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I disagree. Compromise is Compromise, and Consensus is Consensus.
>> Consensus is NOT "submission to majority", or even X% majority.
>> Of course in the real world nothing is ever perfect, but Consensus MEANS
>> working things out creatively so as to respect the wishes of all.
>>
>> It may seem as though the wishes are contradictory but there is a solution
>> which goes beyond the polar opposites characteristic of binary relations.
>> Thinking "outside of the line" is mandatory however.
>>
>> Approaches to consensus building include starting with what is already in
>> consensus even if seems too abstract or trivial.
>> Another is brainstorming in a group for new ideas.
>>
>> No always Win/Lose, but Win/Win.
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>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com>wrote:
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>>> except in times when two parties want very different things (like 'yes'
>>> or 'no') consensus is essentially a compromise (some yes and some no) if not
>>> a complete take over of one side or the other (all 'yes' or all 'no')
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Brian Morris <cymraegish at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Consensus is what results when you negotiate enough so that no one has
>>>> to compromise.
>>>> Compromise results in everyone being dissatisfied about something.
>>>> Consensus makes everyone happy.
>>>> Reaching consensus is about negotiating well and creatively.
>>>>
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