[Noisebridge-discuss] common courtesy: logging into wiki / not editing user pages

Patrick Keys citizenkeys at gmail.com
Sun Feb 20 07:52:06 UTC 2011

I didn't insult your wife at all.  You told me, off-list, that you 
edited my page because something on my page annoyed you.

My response to that, to make a point, was to indicate that just because 
something annoyed me personally didn't make it alright to go editing a page.

To clarify this drama: a picture of Zedd and his hot wife BJ are at the 
top of the Kitchen page.  I removed their picture to make a point 
because Zedd thought it necessary to edit my personal userpage to remove 
some things I have listed there and consider to be accomplishments.

I consider it to be an accomplishment if I start something new.  Some of 
what i consider to be accomplishments are still works-in-progress.  I 
didn't just create the "Apps" wiki page.  I wrote the first three 
versions of the Noisebridge android app.  I also:
* setup the Snack fund,
* buy the $50 or so of snacks each week to keep the snack fund running,
* bought the labels to print the project labels All designed,
* and also did several improvements to the bathrooms.

Seriously, give me a break.


On 2/19/2011 11:46 PM, Zedd Epstein wrote:
> Come on Patrick, it's not nice trying to rile me up off list. Everyone
> knows I'm an asshole, you don't need to make me look like I'm even more
> easily excitable. Also, insulting my wife is a dick move.
> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Patrick Keys <citizenkeys at gmail.com
> <mailto:citizenkeys at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     In editing the kitchen page, i intentionally kept the picture of you
>     and your chick at the top.  Guess I'll remove that since it's
>     fucking annoys me.
>     On 2/19/2011 11:29 PM, Zedd Epstein wrote:
>         So according to the history of the page:
>         I see a total of 5 edits to your page. 2 of them are very well
>         explained. I did one of the other ones because to me your list of
>         "accomplishments" makes it look like you have done a lot of work
>         that
>         you actually just created a wiki page on. It looks like the last
>         2 were
>         someone agreeing with me.
>         Noisebridge is a hackerspace. Get used to people wanting and needing
>         anonymity. I get that you feel like you're being attacked, and you
>         probably are. You're very vocal, and come across as really
>         abnormally
>         rude in your emails. All I've read from you is curt emails about how
>         we're doing things wrong and you know a better way. It's fucking
>         annoying.
>         On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Patrick Keys
>         <citizenkeys at gmail.com <mailto:citizenkeys at gmail.com>
>         <mailto:citizenkeys at gmail.com <mailto:citizenkeys at gmail.com>>>
>         wrote:
>             somebody the last few days has made several
>         less-than-excellent changes
>             to the wiki, including my user page.  that by itself
>         wouldn't bother me
>             except whoever is doing it doesn't even have the balls to at
>         least login
>             to the wiki before editing pages.  there's also numerous
>         other instances
>             of people making less-than-excellent edits to the wiki without
>             logging in.
>             i have emailed the rack list to discuss the possibility of
>         requiring
>             users to login to the wiki before making page edits.  i'm
>         also raising
>             the issue here because this affects everybody.
>             Patrick
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