[Noisebridge-discuss] common courtesy: logging into wiki / not editing user pages

Alex Handy alexhandy at gmail.com
Mon Feb 21 01:53:35 UTC 2011

Patrick: At least Zed and BJ actually did work in the kitchen. You, however, took credit for finishing the bathrooms. However, Zedd, Scott and Miloh actually finished the bathrooms, and to my knowledge all you have ever done with them is to squeeze the best parts of being down the watery hole therein.

Please fuck off and die, before I make a huge issue about you emailing unsolicited sexual advances to female Noisebridge members. How'd you like to talk about that on the list, ya fucking creep.

How much more do we have to do to make it clear you are unwelcome at Noisebridge and that you rub 100% of the people there the wrong way.

On Feb 19, 2011, at 11:52 PM, Patrick Keys wrote:

> I didn't insult your wife at all.  You told me, off-list, that you 
> edited my page because something on my page annoyed you.
> My response to that, to make a point, was to indicate that just because 
> something annoyed me personally didn't make it alright to go editing a page.
> To clarify this drama: a picture of Zedd and his hot wife BJ are at the 
> top of the Kitchen page.  I removed their picture to make a point 
> because Zedd thought it necessary to edit my personal userpage to remove 
> some things I have listed there and consider to be accomplishments.
> I consider it to be an accomplishment if I start something new.  Some of 
> what i consider to be accomplishments are still works-in-progress.  I 
> didn't just create the "Apps" wiki page.  I wrote the first three 
> versions of the Noisebridge android app.  I also:
> * setup the Snack fund,
> * buy the $50 or so of snacks each week to keep the snack fund running,
> * bought the labels to print the project labels All designed,
> * and also did several improvements to the bathrooms.
> Seriously, give me a break.
> Patrick
> On 2/19/2011 11:46 PM, Zedd Epstein wrote:
>> Come on Patrick, it's not nice trying to rile me up off list. Everyone
>> knows I'm an asshole, you don't need to make me look like I'm even more
>> easily excitable. Also, insulting my wife is a dick move.
>> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Patrick Keys <citizenkeys at gmail.com
>> <mailto:citizenkeys at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>    In editing the kitchen page, i intentionally kept the picture of you
>>    and your chick at the top.  Guess I'll remove that since it's
>>    fucking annoys me.
>>    On 2/19/2011 11:29 PM, Zedd Epstein wrote:
>>        So according to the history of the page:
>>        I see a total of 5 edits to your page. 2 of them are very well
>>        explained. I did one of the other ones because to me your list of
>>        "accomplishments" makes it look like you have done a lot of work
>>        that
>>        you actually just created a wiki page on. It looks like the last
>>        2 were
>>        someone agreeing with me.
>>        Noisebridge is a hackerspace. Get used to people wanting and needing
>>        anonymity. I get that you feel like you're being attacked, and you
>>        probably are. You're very vocal, and come across as really
>>        abnormally
>>        rude in your emails. All I've read from you is curt emails about how
>>        we're doing things wrong and you know a better way. It's fucking
>>        annoying.
>>        On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Patrick Keys
>>        <citizenkeys at gmail.com <mailto:citizenkeys at gmail.com>
>>        <mailto:citizenkeys at gmail.com <mailto:citizenkeys at gmail.com>>>
>>        wrote:
>>            somebody the last few days has made several
>>        less-than-excellent changes
>>            to the wiki, including my user page.  that by itself
>>        wouldn't bother me
>>            except whoever is doing it doesn't even have the balls to at
>>        least login
>>            to the wiki before editing pages.  there's also numerous
>>        other instances
>>            of people making less-than-excellent edits to the wiki without
>>            logging in.
>>            i have emailed the rack list to discuss the possibility of
>>        requiring
>>            users to login to the wiki before making page edits.  i'm
>>        also raising
>>            the issue here because this affects everybody.
>>            Patrick
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