[Noisebridge-discuss] Arduino Buying Tips?

[Patrick Keys]

If you want to make the setup battery-powered, what specifically do you 
need?  For example, the open heart kit I made last week.  If I got a 
boarduino and ftdi cable, what else specifically do I need to make it 
battery-powered?


Patrick


On 2/21/2011 12:09 PM, Mitch Altman wrote:
> Hi Jared,
>
> Yes, you got it.
>
> Buying one clone plus one FTDI cable costs more than one Arduino. But
> two clones plus one FTDI cable (which is all you need to program both)
> costs much less than one Arduino. And then the FTDI cable can be used
> for other DIY projects as well, including non-Arduino ones.
>
> If you are only going to be using one Arduino, then it's not worth
> getting a clone plus an clone.
>
> Mitch.
>
>
> ---------------------------
>  > From: jareddunne at gmail.com
>  > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:41:27 -0800
>  > Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Arduino Buying Tips?
>  > To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
>  > CC: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>  >
>  > Mitch-
>  >
>  > Thanks for the helpful reply.
>  >
>  > So it seems that you view the clone + FTDI as an added feature, in
>  > that you can program your arduino using your FTDI cable then
>  > disconnect, then optionally reuse the same cable for connecting some
>  > other project needing USB connectivity?
>  >
>  > Perhaps that logic helps explain why clone+FTDI cable might cost more
>  > than Arduino+USB cable.
>  >
>  > Jared-
>  >
>  > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>  > > We also have Volksduinos. The functionality of BoArduino and
> Volksduino are
>  > > exactly the same as Duemilenove with ATmega328 -- with the
> exception that
>  > > you needn an FTDI cable. The BoArduino has a smaller form factor
> than the
>  > > Duemilenove, since it is designed to be used in a solderless
> breadboard.
>  > > The Volksduino has the exact same form factor as the Duemilenove.
>  > >
>  > > I also have some Diavolino kits at home, made by Evil Mad
> Scientist, which
>  > > is also exactly the same as the Duemilenove functionally, except
> without the
>  > > FTDI cable, and without the 5v regulator (which you don't need if
> you will
>  > > be running it from batteries (three AA batteries) or from your
> computer's
>  > > USB power.
>  > >
>  > > The tradeoffs of USB with the Arduino and clones:
>  > > Clones usually do not have a USB chip, since they are expensive. So,
>  > > if you dedicate your Aduino (with a USB chip) to a project, you are
>  > > essentially wasting that USB chip, since it is only used to program the
>  > > Arduino. But, if you buy a clone without the USB chip, you need an FTDI
>  > > cable, which has the USB chip in it (FTDI is the name of the
> company that
>  > > makes these USB chips, and they sell the cable that has the chip in
> it, this
>  > > is why the cable is called "FTDI cable"). However, you only need
> one FTDI
>  > > cable for all of your projects, and it works on all Arduino clones,
> plus
>  > > lots of other DIY projects (which often do not have a USB chip).
>  > >
>  > > Mitch.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > ----------------------
>  > >> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 01:58:06 -0800
>  > >> From: citizenkeys at gmail.com
>  > >> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>  > >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Arduino Buying Tips?
>  > >>
>  > >> Mitch already has Boarduinos for sale, so you can conveniently get one
>  > >> Monday night. Miloh also has one or two inexpensive "prolific hookup"
>  > >> cables that he may part with that are less expensive than the FTDI
>  > >> usb-to-serial cables. Whatever arduino or clone you go with, you'll
>  > >> need some sort of usb-to-serial cable to program it.
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> Patrick
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> On 2/21/2011 1:52 AM, Jared Dunne wrote:
>  > >> > Hi All-
>  > >> >
>  > >> > Any warnings or tips for a first time Arduino buyer?
>  > >> >
>  > >> > I was currently considering either the Arduino UNO or Arduino
>  > >> > Duemilanove w/ ATmega328. They seem like the most ubiquitous
> options.
>  > >> > I like that there are all sorts of shields designed for them. I like
>  > >> > that I can just use a standard USB cable for power/programming. I
>  > >> > don't have any specific project requirements, but I'd like something
>  > >> > that is versatile enough, so I will be able to use it for a
> variety of
>  > >> > ideas without hitting too many limitations.
>  > >> >
>  > >> > Does it matter if I get the newer UNO versus the Duemilanove
>  > >> > ATmega328? Is there something altogether different I should be
>  > >> > considering?
>  > >> >
>  > >> > I have considered the Boarduino/Volksduino kit but would prefer
>  > >> > something I can start hacking with out of the box.
>  > >> >
>  > >> > Thanks in advance for any advice!
>  > >> >
>  > >> > Jared-
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