[Noisebridge-discuss] Patrick being banned

[VonGuard]

So, I just wanted to nip this in the bud: We are all very appreciative of
advice from newcomers, but if you are watching all this Patrick Keys drama
from the outside, and you think to yourself "Hey, that's some very
unexcellent behavior towards Patrick!" I ask you to stop and think for a
moment.

Noisebridge is a super accepting space. It was only after tremendous
discussion, debate, and evidence gathering that we decided to ban him. Until
the next official meeting, most of you are just going to have to trust that
we have made the best decision for Noisebridge here. That is why so many
names were appended to the bottom of that email. This was to say "We are
signing to say this is legitimate, and that this action needs to be taken."

This was actually never about personality, or even about the mailing list.
This was about Patrick making women at Noisebridge feel unsafe. This was not
done based on any form of speculation or jumping to conclusions. This was
done after a careful, considered process where it was decided that not
banning Patrick was the same thing as banning a number of women who would no
longer come to Noisebridge because of his presence and his unwanted
attentions, and his stalking behavior.

Noisebridge has plenty of socially awkward geeks. We all know that if yer a
chick at Noisebridge, someone might stare at your boobs. Awkward though this
is, it's actually OK. Sure, it's not the most polite thing to do, but it's
harmless. Women and men at Noisebridge are still perfectly free to behave
like women and men. This is very far from what is taking place here.
Patrick's behavior was well over the line of acceptable.

This was not a witch hunt. This is not a precedent for banning annoying or
creepy people. This was about physical safety in and outside of the space
for ladies with whom Patrick had crossed the line, and continued to cross
the line after being told to stop.

Finally, I will say that the "intervention, mediated talking" route had
already been tried with Patrick. If you are interested in reading more about
Patrick's complete inability and unwillingness to listen to ANYONE about
ANYTHING, there are about 4 months worth of email backlogs in our archives
documenting his complete inability to listen and understand people's
problems with him. It's a pattern with him.

This extended to also being unable to accept the word "no!" from women. And
that makes me want to do something truly terrible to him. But instead of
hurting him or assaulting him online or offline, we all decided to solve
this within Noisebridge's processes. Believe me, there are others here who
would have done far worse to him given the chance. The man is a menace, and
does not even treat women like people. They are sexual objects to him, ones
that owe him sexual attentions, in his eyes.

This is not someone we will ever be allowing back. He is pure fucking scum,
and he is absolutely the antithesis of everything Noiserbridge stands for.

Let it be known: you cannot sexually harass or endanger ANYONE at
Noisebridge. You will be banned if you do so and do not correct the behavior
when you are told to stop. This is the precedent we're setting. And I think
it is a very good one. Everyone should be safe at Noisebridge. And no one
should feel unsafe outside of Noisebridge because a person associated with
the space is following/harassing them.

If you are still not convinced, come to the meeting next week. I agree, this
is all quite ugly, but at the end of the day, this is 100% Patrick's own
fault. Noisebridge remains %99.999 inclusive. But stalkers will NEVER be
welcome.



On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 6:49 AM, Rikke Rasmussen <
rikke.c.rasmussen at gmail.com> wrote:

> I know that my being very new at Noisebridge may cause some of you to find
> it inappropriate for me to interfere in this matter, but I hope you'll bear
> with me and hear me out. I've met Patrick multiple times through
> Tastebridge, and know him only as polite, if perhaps a little  formal, even
> stiff, at times. However, I have never found his behavior untoward in any
> way. I will of course read the material available tomorrow, but given the
> very rapid development of the situation, I feel like I should add a comment
> in his defense immediately - I've witnessed a lynching before and have no
> desire to see another.
>
> Exclusion is the worst punishment  Noisebridge has because of the no
> policies-policy, our equivalent of capital punishment, and I do not feel
> that the crime merits this measure. It is as big a deal as the offended
> party chooses to make of it, but since this has only been brought out in
> public by a flamewar, and not by the person herself, I can't help but feel
> that Frantisek may have a point about attempting mediated dialogue first.
> More than anything, though, I would like to hear from the female in question
> - if you are following this discussion, I would like to know whether you
> feel that this is reasonable?
>
> I hope it's clear that I'm trying to pour water, not gasoline, on the fire
> here.
>
> /Rikke
>
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