[Noisebridge-discuss] Banning Patrick from Noisebridge

Albert Sweigart asweigart at gmail.com
Wed Feb 23 17:44:27 UTC 2011


The laser printer was donated by Patrick and is Noisebridge property.
I would consider his taking of this not-inexpensive item as theft.

Here's the email where he specifically says he's donated the printer:

https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2011-February/020804.html

-Al


On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 6:20 AM, lilia <liliakai at gmail.com> wrote:
> From the thread entitled "[Noisebridge-discuss] donated new hp
> laserjet color laser printer (cp1525nw)"
>
> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Patrick Keys <citizenkeys at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Donated a new hp laserjet color laser printer earlier today.
>
> Sounds like a donation to me...
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 6:09 AM, John E <neurofog at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Does anyone have any opinion about what should happen with "his" laser
>> printer.
>> Is it donated NB property or should we return it to him as requested, and
>> hopefully end this drama.
>> John
>> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Rachel McConnell <rachel at xtreme.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Patrick, the undersigned have agreed doocratically that you are no
>>> longer welcome at Noisebridge.  Do not return.  If you have possessions
>>> in the space you may contact Jason Dusek who will collect them and bring
>>> them down to you at the sidewalk.  Any of us will, if we see you in the
>>> space, ask you to leave and escort you out.
>>>
>>>
>>> Everyone else, we are putting up an official consensus item for banning
>>> Patrick from the space.  There is strong evidence that he has behaved in
>>> unacceptable ways to other people associated with Noisebridge, which
>>> makes members of our community feel unsafe.
>>>
>>> It is a difficult balance to illustrate the problem while still
>>> protecting the privacy of all of those involved, and the solution we
>>> have come up with is this.
>>>
>>> Rachel Hospodar, Al Sweigart, and Veronica Sutter are talking to those
>>> involved to obtain the level of permission they are comfortable with.
>>> They plan to collate two bodies of evidence, one electronic and one on
>>> paper, documenting Patrick's behavior.  Members of Noisebridge can view
>>> this evidence by contacting them directly.  The electronic version will
>>> probably be smaller, but will be available to members on request if they
>>> are unable to come to the space to view the paper version.  The paper
>>> version will be in the custody of Jason Dusek, who has a high level of
>>> availability to meet members at Noisebridge and show them.
>>>
>>> This is a serious case and we truly hope that all members are able to
>>> take time to consider this evidence, discuss the situation with your
>>> fellow Noisebridgers and come to a meeting next week to express your
>>> opinion.
>>>
>>> Rachel McConnell
>>> Al Sweigart
>>> Alex Handy
>>> Timothy Sanders
>>> Will Sargent
>>> Rachel Hospodar
>>> Ronald Cotoni
>>> Steve Koenig (Hephaestus)
>>> Veronica Sutter
>>> Robert Chu
>>> John E.
>>> Zedd Epstein
>>> Rubin Abdi
>>> Snail
>>> Jason Dusek
>>>
>>> ---
>>> I have taken the liberty of redacting Patrick's last name from this
>>> email. Google is forever and it's possible he will improve over time. I
>>> hope others who respond will take this into account.
>>>
>>> -Rachel M
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