[Noisebridge-discuss] Banning Patrick from Noisebridge

[Crutcher Dunnavant]

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Jason Dusek <jason.dusek at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 03:45, Adrian Bankhead
> <invisibleman_24 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > In addition to the fact a definitive action was taken before
> > people had time to consense, the thing that I'm most disturbed
> > about is that Patrick was never given the opportunity to speak
> > in his own defense to the group, or to reply formally to
> > accusations ("evidence"). Even if he is a total scumbag, he
> > still deserves the opportunity to defend himself prior to
> > banning. And Noisebridge guard jealously its collective
> > autonomy, which is strengthened when it protects the rights of
> > the accused and insists on hearing arguments from all sides
> > before making decisions.
>
>   I agree with you about all this. I think, had this not been a
>  case of sexual harassment, many of us would have stood firm in
>  our demands for a just procedure. My own role in this may
>  haunt me yet.
>
> > Perhaps there ought to be a formal mechanism to suspend people
> > under emergency circumstances (a certain number
> > of members have to sign a petition)? A suspension would kick
> > off an eviction process that would give a suspended person the
> > opportunity to defend him or herself, and would build-in
> > time (at least as many meetings as it takes to become a member
> > of Noisebridge) to allow the group to make a cool and
> > considered decision.
>
>   This is too specific as regards timing, number of meetings, all
>  that stuff. Suspensions are special cases; I don't know that we
>  can have a procedure that provides for a general way to handle
>  what we want in each case.
>
>  The notion that the accused must have a hearing, that the
>  defendant may offer a defense, is sound and really should be
>  held to whenever possible, not just in suspensions. I fully
>  support that.
>
> Rights are written down. Everything else is just propaganda.


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