[Noisebridge-discuss] ATTENTION EVERYBODY: GET A LIFE!
asweigart at gmail.com
Thu Feb 24 18:43:34 UTC 2011
I appreciate you stepping in with a moderate tone. But I need to
clarify a few things. Patrick is free to (and has) write emails to the
mailing list to explain himself and clarify the situation. But he
cannot physically come into the space or otherwise participate in the
community. I am certainly not censoring him from defending or
explaining himself over email at this time.
This discussion also takes place on the public mailing list because 1)
it's the easiest way to reach Noisebridge people who opt-in to the
list and 2) many people have complaints about a lack of transparency
in this situation. Many people who participate in Noisebridge (which
included Patrick) are not members, and a members-only list would
necessarily shut them out of any discussion. This is a tough balance
between openness and not airing dirty laundry, and Noisebridge tends
to lean towards openness.
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Colin Keigher <colin at keyboardcowboy.ca> wrote:
> If you're not welcomed to the space, maybe you should consider not
> coming? I know that it sucks to be booted from a community but perhaps
> you're a square in a round hole there? You know what I mean? It isn't
> healthy to try and defend yourself when consensus is up against you.
> Maybe cut your loses and consider doing something else? I think that is
> the best thing you should do from here on.
> As an outsider and fellow hackerspace-ian, I can understand the troubles
> that Patrick may be giving you--we've run into individuals that have
> given us grief as well. However, it is really upsetting to see a
> well-respected hackerspace bring themselves down to the level where
> there is public fighting on an open mailing list. It seems to damage the
> integrity of Noisebridge and only serves as an example of what not to do.
> Perhaps what should be done is what we do at our hackerspace and keep
> this sort of dramatics to a members-only mailing list.
> - Colin
> On 2/24/11 9:17 AM, Patrick Keys wrote:
>> ATTENTION EVERYBODY:
>> GET A LIFE!
>> ANYBODY THAT CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING MORE INTERESTING THAN ME TO DISCUSS
>> OBVIOUSLY HAS NO LIFE.
>> MOVE ON!
>> Patrick Keys
>> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>> Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
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