[Noisebridge-discuss] ATTENTION EVERYBODY: GET A LIFE!

John Menerick ponies at mayhemiclabs.com
Thu Feb 24 21:44:43 UTC 2011


I'm pleasantly satisfied with NoiseBridge.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Mike Schachter <mike at mindmech.com> wrote:
> Noisebridge works just fine for me.
>
>  mike
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Patrick Keys <citizenkeys at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The consideration's long been done.  You are preaching to the choir.
>> I've long since determined that Noisebridge is broken and also I'm not a
>> good fit.  The organizational culture at Noisebridge is just too much of
>> a disorganized mess.
>>
>> ...But Noisebridge is the only real hackerspace within San Francisco.
>> The rest are dull co-working spaces and there's also TechShop.  It has
>> almost been worth putting up with the broken-ness of Noisebridge to meet
>> professional contacts, which occasionally does happen.  As somebody with
>> a business degree, I would have also liked to have said that I
>> contributed to somehow making the organization of Noisebridge a better
>> experience.
>>
>> As the only hackerspace in "The City", I would have though initially
>> that Noisebridge could be a flagship positive example for other
>> hackerspaces, the "Grand Lodge" of Silicon Valley / Northern California
>> hackerspaces, if you will.  But that's never going to happen.
>>
>>
>> Patrick Keys
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/24/2011 10:15 AM, Colin Keigher wrote:
>>> Patrick:
>>> If you're not welcomed to the space, maybe you should consider not
>>> coming? I know that it sucks to be booted from a community but perhaps
>>> you're a square in a round hole there? You know what I mean? It isn't
>>> healthy to try and defend yourself when consensus is up against you.
>>>
>>> Maybe cut your loses and consider doing something else? I think that is
>>> the best thing you should do from here on.
>>>
>>> All:
>>> As an outsider and fellow hackerspace-ian, I can understand the troubles
>>> that Patrick may be giving you--we've run into individuals that have
>>> given us grief as well. However, it is really upsetting to see a
>>> well-respected hackerspace bring themselves down to the level where
>>> there is public fighting on an open mailing list. It seems to damage the
>>> integrity of Noisebridge and only serves as an example of what not to do.
>>>
>>> Perhaps what should be done is what we do at our hackerspace and keep
>>> this sort of dramatics to a members-only mailing list.
>>>
>>> - Colin
>>>
>>> On 2/24/11 9:17 AM, Patrick Keys wrote:
>>>> ATTENTION EVERYBODY:
>>>> GET A LIFE!
>>>>
>>>> ANYBODY THAT CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING MORE INTERESTING THAN ME TO DISCUSS
>>>> OBVIOUSLY HAS NO LIFE.
>>>>
>>>> MOVE ON!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Patrick Keys
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