[Noisebridge-discuss] ATTENTION EVERYBODY: GET A LIFE!

Ashley McClelland armcclelland at gmail.com
Fri Feb 25 02:25:57 UTC 2011

I've started two hackerspaces. One, I helped with. The other, I really put
in most of the effort behind starting initially. Starting a hackerspace
isn't hard. Being a part of one is the tricky part.

I appreciate seeing Noisebridge for what it is, and I don't think there's
anything wrong with that. I have had theories about what's best to show to
the public, but at the end of the day, at a hackerspace, honesty is all
you've got to protect what you've made. You're running on fumes of
utilitarian motives and the hope that people won't take advantage of those
motives. And if they do, it will break. Not for the whole, hopefully,
because the whole is tied to the cause (by virtue of the ideals and motives
that founded it), but for the raw person who has deviated from the
utilitarian mean, to the extent of essentially becoming an outlier. Outliers
can be positive influences, or they can be poisonous. Sometimes, they bring
the "mean" away from its natural tendency with positive input and influence.
Sometimes, they deviate too far, have very little pull, and their influence
is poisonous.

Any hackerspace should understand this, and any person who understands what
Noisebridge represents should, to some extent, get the gist here. It's
theoretical, yes, but hackerspaces are political entities in many ways and
need to stick to their roots, or risk having their entire foundation

It's more complicated than just keeping this conversation private to save
face. It's entirely crucial that everyone be exposed to the process that
protects the "utilitarian mean" I was referencing in all my theoretical

Am I off on this? Maybe. But this is how I see it. And I completely respect


On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Jason Dusek <jason.dusek at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 01:12, Christina Olson <daravinne at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Man, if I had a nickel for every time someone misinterpreted "Do as thou
> > wilt shall be the whole of the law" I could start a WHOLE NOTHER
>   Please offer more explanation; I am curious.
> --
> Jason Dusek
> Linux User #510144 | http://counter.li.org/
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