[Noisebridge-discuss] Is ??????? stealing from the donation jug?

Frantisek Apfelbeck algoldor at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 4 08:30:35 UTC 2011

Hi Alex,
Are you 100% sure that it was not for some Noisebridge purposes? I know  that 
it's done now and in this case it can not be taken really back  because many 
people who read your post will not read even negative  response (travelling, 
busy with other things etc.) so for them the name  and act will become a fact. 
It was recommended to me in the past to  treat things like this if it is not an 

1. talk politely to the person asking to stop or explain their behaviour
2. talk to the person again, insisting
3. get more members to talk to the person, one by one or in group
4. bring the matter to the meeting and discuss it there with person in question 
present if possible
5. bring it up on the mailing list (without name of the person)
6. bring it up on the mailing list with details of the person so whole community 
can react specifically

I know that it takes time, but I was personally mentioned on the mailing  list 
jumping from the step 1 to 6 within several hours having no chance to react and 
sort out the matter. I've found it harmful  for everyone, to Noisebridge 
community mostly.

Anyway I hope that it will be explained, please post what is going to be found 



Message: 27
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 11:37:29 -0800
From: Alex Handy <alexhandy at gmail.com>
Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Is Patrick Keys stealing from the
    donation    jug?
To: noisebridge-discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
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In  the spirit of the openness that Patrick Keys has postulated, demanded,  and 
yammered on about incessantly, I thought it only fair to air the  accusations I 
was just made aware of:

It is alleged that Patrick  Keys has been seen taking money out of the donation 
boxes. This  accusation was leveled by a fellow who claimed to see this take 
place at  3 AM while the witness was gaming at NB. I've been told others have  
seen him do this on other occasions, but rather than do things in the  dark 
behind closed doors, I thought I'd ask the list if anyone else can  corroborate. 
Maybe we can set up some sort of formal process for dealing  with thieves  in 
the process!


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