[Noisebridge-discuss] Handy signs are handy.

rachel lyra hospodar rachelyra at gmail.com
Fri Jul 29 17:38:05 UTC 2011

You seem to be missing my point.

I am not saying that people always deface signs to be helpful.  I think the
FACT of their defacement or removal is a helpful data point.

If you choose to focus on it in a different way, that is your choice.

On Jul 29, 2011 10:31 AM, "Al Sweigart" <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
> The tagging I've seen haven't really been helpful commentary so much
> as just passive aggressive snarky comments or the sign just gets torn
> down. Either way, it doesn't really facilitate communication and
> discourages people from putting up signs in the first place. It's not
> like the wiki, where you can have a separate talk page and undoing
> edits are trivial.
> Anyway, my offer still stands. I'll donate a dollar a day to
> Noisebridge each day the printed signs go without being defaced or
> torn down. I'll occasionally replace signs and start paying again if
> they get tagged up.
> I'm up for meeting with Liz and Daravinne for brainstorming. There's a
> wiki page up too: nburl.net/signage
> -Al
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:06 AM, rachel lyra hospodar
>> <rachelyra at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I think if a sign gets removed or defaced it's often an excellent piece
>>> feedback from the community about the quality, intentions, or placement
>>> the sign.  Signs I've made have been removed. I try to be pragmatic
about it
>>> and take the fact of their removal to be something I can improve
>>> I think we need better signage for a lot of reasons... including exit
>>> signs.  Anyone want to start a signage working group with me?
>> I think the best place for this would be on the social engineering list.
>> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/socialengineering
>> Me, Liz and Daravinne can't make it to this week's tuesday meeting (or
>> the social engineering meeting before it, so maybe meet up before then
>> to brainstorm on it?)
>> d.
>>> mediumreality.com
>>> On Jul 29, 2011 10:02 AM, "Danny O'Brien" <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com>
>>>>> One of the efforts I want to do to make the space less intimidating to
>>>>> new people is to improve the signage around the space to make it more
>>>>> obvious what things are at NB, where those things are, and provide
>>>>> answers for "what is this thing?" (protip: If the thing is glowing
>>>>> and/or slimy, don't touch it.)
>>>>> A lot of the signs have been getting tagged up recently (if you have a
>>>>> problem or suggestion with the wording, feel free to email me
>>>>> privately or email the list), so to encourage preserving the signs,
>>>>> I'm going to donate $1 each day the signs go without being defaced or
>>>>> torn down. (If anyone can help with a part of that dollar, it'd be
>>>>> great. $365 a year adds up.)
>>>> Hey Al, I think Daravinne and Liz are already working on improving the
>>>> signing (as is somebody I don't know from taste bridge), you might
>>>> want to work with them on this. There's some talk about getting a
>>>> laminator as well.
>>>> I think the "tagging" comes from a general encouragement in the last
>>>> batch of signs to note changes or improvements, and I personally think
>>>> it's a good way to get direct commentary; though in general I also
>>>> think putting an email and contact on the signs is also good. Liz's
>>>> kitchen signs got taken down specifically because someone is working
>>>> on better versions of them, based on the written improvements. Our
>>>> signs are generally just not very good or clear (or just
>>>> overpowering), and I think requires more thought than simply
>>>> attempting not to deface or remove ones that aren't working.
>>>> d.
>>>>> -Al
>>>>> p.s. I put fresh black and color cartridges in the white HP inkjet
>>>>> printer, but print in color sparingly cause it's expensive (i.e.
>>>>> overpriced by monopolistic bastards).
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