[Noisebridge-discuss] 1. Re: Electricity usage at the space is up UP UP

aestetix aestetix aestetix at gmail.com
Sat Jun 25 23:38:59 UTC 2011


Is the electrical usage a concern, or just an observation?

If there have been an influx of new people, and you (the general you) see
someone around, why not ask them if they've considered putting in a
membership application? I wonder how many people come by and don't even know
they can become a member, and have no idea how to contribute towards the
space.

On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 10:24 AM, rachel lyra hospodar <
> rachelyra at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If anything I would say overall use of the sewing machines has declined
>> over the last year; it used to be much harder to get time on the single
>> needle.
>>
>> In the last year we have acquired some big hogs:
>> -vending machine
>> -second fridge
>> -lazor
>>
>> As well as, in my estimation, slightly increasing kitchen use and steadily
>> increasingly large numbers of people that are soldering on mondays.  Also,
>> just MORE users. If we are charging 20 more laptops every week that could
>> add up, no?
>>
>> IMNSHO all commendable uses of the space (well, except maybe the vending
>> machine, curious what the ROI is there when it's adjusted for power
>> consumption).
>>
>>
> The vending machine actually brings in a fair amount of money.
>
> Just to clarify, we're not really looking at a huge increase here: I don't
> think we have to change much at all to accommodate it.
>
> As you say, creating affordances for people to give us money is the most
> obvious one.
>
> d.
>
>
> Maybe we can find a way to blame the hippies.
>>
>> Maybe we can find a way to more prominently solicit donations.
>>
>> mediumreality.com
>> On Jun 24, 2011 6:27 PM, "Bruce Wolfe" <brucewolfe.sf at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > How about WiFi webcams with white LEDs pointing onto the meters? Then
>> you
>> > can walk around the space with a smartphone even, unplugging devices and
>> > don't need the additional humans in the creepy basement.
>> >
>> > How many new servers were installed lately, too? Remember, that data
>> centers
>> > charge for rackspace based on power consumption.
>> >
>> > I have to say that kitchen appliances and anything that is AC motorized
>> will
>> > probably be the culprit. Sorry, fabric-hackers, maybe sewing machines.
>> >
>> > Good luck.
>> > Bruce
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> We have mechanical meters, I think the smart meters are due in the next
>> >> year or so.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Bruce Wolfe <brucewolfe.sf at gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Additionally, are these PG$E mechanical or Smart meters?
>> >>>
>> >>> Bruce
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from Android. Pardon spelling.
>> >>> On Jun 24, 2011 2:20 PM, "jim" <jim at well.com> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Good idea. A variant is to unplug the suspect device
>> >>> > and plug it into something that measures Amps (e.g. a
>> >>> > variac). What this will yield is a snapshot of amps.
>> >>> > What's additionally needed is to know the amount of use
>> >>> > during a billing period.
>> >>> > A gizmo such as Andy's suggestion (we have one buried
>> >>> > behind the refridge next to the vending machine) can show
>> >>> > power usage for a time period. (I saw it but didn't want
>> >>> > to move all the stuff necessary so's to retrieve it--if
>> >>> > someone does retrieve it, maybe it'd be good to have a
>> >>> > well-known storage place for it or the note someone would
>> >>> > write to indicate it's current working location.)
>> >>> > I suspect the cooking stuff as the primary sucker of
>> >>> > power and NB money: can cookers tell if there's been
>> >>> > greater use of that stuff in the last three months over
>> >>> > the previous quarter?
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 12:10 -0700, Bruce Wolfe wrote:
>> >>> >> Go analog and start unplugging things one at a time while someone
>> is
>> >>> >> watching the meter spin (or numbers flip) while on walkie-talkies,
>> or
>> >>> >> a human chain to relay the message up and down or maybe just plain
>> old
>> >>> >> two cans and string.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Bruce
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Sent from Android. Pardon spelling.
>> >>> >>
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