[Noisebridge-discuss] 1. Re: Electricity usage at the space is up UP UP
jim
jim at systemateka.com
Sun Jun 26 15:51:57 UTC 2011
this should be a separate thread.
seems to me that we who care should pay attention
to signage, both in the space and on the wiki.
in my view, some signs should be really big and
prominent and always in the same place, obnoxiously
apparent to first-time visitors. other signs should
be big and prominent but moved around from time to
time so that people coming in repeatedly won't get
numb to them.
On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 17:56 -0700, Danny O'Brien wrote:
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> On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 4:38 PM, aestetix aestetix
> <aestetix at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is the electrical usage a concern, or just an observation?
>
>
> If there have been an influx of new people, and you (the
> general you) see someone around, why not ask them if they've
> considered putting in a membership application? I wonder how
> many people come by and don't even know they can become a
> member, and have no idea how to contribute towards the space.
>
> The answer is *lots*. And the biggest confusion is that *you don't
> need to become a full member to donate*. Lots of people don't want to
> become a full member, which can be a little long-winded, but still
> want to give something to Noisebridge and the community. You can set
> up a monthly donation for $10/mo $20/mo$40/mo$80/mo or any amount you
> like.
>
> I was thinking about creating a little (physical) card explaining
> this, because I think the social awkwardness of asking people to
> donate is hard to overcome without a bit of help. Anyone a designer
> who would like to help with this?
>
> d.
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> On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Danny O'Brien
> <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 10:24 AM, rachel lyra hospodar
> <rachelyra at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> If anything I would say overall use of the
> sewing machines has declined over the last
> year; it used to be much harder to get time on
> the single needle.
>
> In the last year we have acquired some big
> hogs:
> -vending machine
> -second fridge
> -lazor
>
> As well as, in my estimation, slightly
> increasing kitchen use and steadily
> increasingly large numbers of people that are
> soldering on mondays. Also, just MORE users.
> If we are charging 20 more laptops every week
> that could add up, no?
>
> IMNSHO all commendable uses of the space
> (well, except maybe the vending machine,
> curious what the ROI is there when it's
> adjusted for power consumption).
>
>
> The vending machine actually brings in a fair amount
> of money.
>
> Just to clarify, we're not really looking at a huge
> increase here: I don't think we have to change much at
> all to accommodate it.
>
> As you say, creating affordances for people to give us
> money is the most obvious one.
>
> d.
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>
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>
> Maybe we can find a way to blame the hippies.
>
> Maybe we can find a way to more prominently
> solicit donations.
>
> mediumreality.com
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2011 6:27 PM, "Bruce Wolfe"
> <brucewolfe.sf at gmail.com> wrote:
> > How about WiFi webcams with white LEDs
> pointing onto the meters? Then you
> > can walk around the space with a smartphone
> even, unplugging devices and
> > don't need the additional humans in the
> creepy basement.
> >
> > How many new servers were installed lately,
> too? Remember, that data centers
> > charge for rackspace based on power
> consumption.
> >
> > I have to say that kitchen appliances and
> anything that is AC motorized will
> > probably be the culprit. Sorry,
> fabric-hackers, maybe sewing machines.
> >
> > Good luck.
> > Bruce
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Danny
> O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
> >
> >> We have mechanical meters, I think the
> smart meters are due in the next
> >> year or so.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Bruce
> Wolfe <brucewolfe.sf at gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>> Additionally, are these PG$E mechanical or
> Smart meters?
> >>>
> >>> Bruce
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Android. Pardon spelling.
> >>> On Jun 24, 2011 2:20 PM, "jim"
> <jim at well.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Good idea. A variant is to unplug the
> suspect device
> >>> > and plug it into something that measures
> Amps (e.g. a
> >>> > variac). What this will yield is a
> snapshot of amps.
> >>> > What's additionally needed is to know
> the amount of use
> >>> > during a billing period.
> >>> > A gizmo such as Andy's suggestion (we
> have one buried
> >>> > behind the refridge next to the vending
> machine) can show
> >>> > power usage for a time period. (I saw it
> but didn't want
> >>> > to move all the stuff necessary so's to
> retrieve it--if
> >>> > someone does retrieve it, maybe it'd be
> good to have a
> >>> > well-known storage place for it or the
> note someone would
> >>> > write to indicate it's current working
> location.)
> >>> > I suspect the cooking stuff as the
> primary sucker of
> >>> > power and NB money: can cookers tell if
> there's been
> >>> > greater use of that stuff in the last
> three months over
> >>> > the previous quarter?
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 12:10 -0700, Bruce
> Wolfe wrote:
> >>> >> Go analog and start unplugging things
> one at a time while someone is
> >>> >> watching the meter spin (or numbers
> flip) while on walkie-talkies, or
> >>> >> a human chain to relay the message up
> and down or maybe just plain old
> >>> >> two cans and string.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Bruce
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Sent from Android. Pardon spelling.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
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