[Noisebridge-discuss] [drama] My Hair Is On Fire - Current events that are shaping your rights as we speak

[jim]

    here's a link to a political event in SF tomorrow 
(tuesday 20110315): 
http://pol.moveon.org/event/events/event.html?event_id=113305&id=26488-18847062-2m.k8Gx&t=1 

    my sense of "hacking politics" is based on the 
impression that noisebridge is highly open to and 
welcomes any activities, as long as there's a 
creative involvement, which is what i understand 
to be the heart of hacking. 



On Sun, 2011-03-13 at 22:45 -0700, Snail wrote:
> If you are not a hacker, you may just be a hack[er].
> 
> BUUURRRN.
> 
> Isn't it funny how the word which means an expert at programming could
> also mean someone who's unskilled in anything else? Does that mean
> people not skilled at computers are hackers regardless, or maybe
> inexpert people who can still hack a few working lines of code
> together are actually doing double the hacking than an expert? Does
> that mean I'm simultaneously the worst and greatest hacker ever, like
> a cat trapped in a box? WHY IS ENGLISH DOING THIS TO US.
> 
> On another note, Merriam-Webster describes what the population of nb
> does at the space (I partake of 3 and 4a myself) in two of their many
> definitions. I'm just giddy now:
> 
> hack (v)
> 3: loaf —usually used with around 
> 4 a : to write computer programs for enjoyment
> 
> Maybe I should host a breadmaking class, and while we sit around and
> wait for the bread to bake, people will wonder, "Are we hacking, or
> are we HACKING?" ["loaf"ing]
> 
> 
> -The hack writer [The kind of hack writer who's BAD at writing, not
> the kind who just writes on commission. -- I don't actually get paid
> for this.]
> 
> 
> To be more serious, I agree with Evan, and also don't. -- For one
> thing, the word hack has a robust set of definitions which existed
> before computers and can be applied far away from programs and
> machines [it's horses all the way down], but I agree that I've seen
> too many people apply it in a sense that doesn't actually make sense.
> 
> Example: I don't know what hacking politics is supposed to mean based
> on this discussion. Are you going to get into politics successfully
> (general definition of hack) or you're going to find some sneaky,
> subversive (illegal) way to get something accomplished (stretching the
> definition of computer hacking to non-computer nouns) in politics? --
> I think real politicians already have us beat on the latter type of
> political hacking. Those fuckers.
> 
> -Snail
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Evan Bangham <ebangham at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>         Attention, you cannot 'hack' politics, you cannot hack
>         political parties, you cannot hack politicians, you cannot
>         hack social issues, or fiscal policy. Please for the love of
>         everything holey, stop it with this over application of the
>         word 'hack'. If you do not write code, design circuits or at
>         the very least create mechanical devices, you are not a
>         hacker. Thats right, it's true, the jib is up, you're not a
>         Non hacking hacker, not a anti hacking hacker, a sub hacker,
>         or anything else. You're not a hacker, plain and simple.
>         
>         If people keep on using the word so loosely it will soon be
>         devoid of all meaning and become, semantically speaking, a
>         steaming dead carcass of the word it once was. Soon in the not
>         so distant future we'll be saying shit like "I need to hack my
>         underwear in the washing machine, because I forgot hack my ass
>         when I was on the toilet taking a hack."
>         
>         I've had a lot of free time lately and I will start repeating
>         this message everytime I see the word, or any derivatives
>         thereof applied in a way that doesn't follow this simple
>         definition.
>         
>         On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Wladyslaw Zbikowski
>         <embeddedlinuxguy at gmail.com> wrote:
>                 On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:03 AM, Corey McGuire
>                 <coreyfro at coreyfro.com> wrote:
>                 > If you care about your right to vote you need to
>                 watch this. This will
>                 > be the most informative hour of your life:
>                 
>                 I believe in direct action, not voting; that's why I
>                 became a hacker
>                 instead of an activist. I don't know (or care) what
>                 the fuck you are
>                 talking about, but if watching a video on MSNBC is
>                 really the most
>                 informative hour of my life, please drive to 2475 3rd
>                 St and kill me
>                 right now. Thanks.
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