[Noisebridge-discuss] [drama] My Hair Is On Fire - Current events that are shaping your rights as we speak

[Corey McGuire]

All you noisebridgers, thinking that you're so modern and stuff with your
"Hacker Space"... The Magliozzi brothers (AKA Click and Clack, the tappit
brothers) ran "Hacker's Haven" in the early 70's for DIY auto repair.

Take THAT you crazy computer nerds!

Hacking means, to me, DIY when what one is [D]oing isn't necessarily done
for occupational purposes and as long as it's not trivial and/or presents
one with a challenge.

Also, it has been said that any solution you create will require 10 times as
much effort to fix, so one should keep one's solutions to a tenth of one's
ability.  Hacking is when one breaks this law.

As to this entire discussion, need I remind you that there are real problems
on this earth, and they are more dangerous than misusing a silly word that
means, in essence, to chop with great force.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Brian Morris <cymraegish at gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow this is profound.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Marc Juul <marcjc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > Hacking:
>> > "To attempt to solve a problem by artfully applying skills and tools in
>> or
>> > closely related to the areas of computer programing or circuit design
>> > without reference to a plan or instructions." I don't think many would
>> argue
>> > that it was people in software that started using the word in relation
>> to
>> > writing software before it started to linguistically crawl its way into
>> > other circles.
>>
>> I think this focus on which technologies allow for hacking is unneeded.
>>
>> I wouldn't personally call someone a hacker because they do work that
>> can be called hacking.
>> I would call someone a hacker if they channel hacker culture in what they
>> do.
>>
>> My definition of a hacker is more or less as laid out by the hacker ethic:
>>
>>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_ethic#The_hacker_ethics
>>
>> With the references to "computers" replaced by "technology".
>>
>> If you managed to reprogram a microwave oven to break AES in less time
>> than it takes to pop your popcorn, but then sell it to the military
>> and don't disclose the solution to the public, then what you have done
>> might well be called a hack, or an act of hacking, but I would never
>> call that person a hacker.
>>
>> I don't think we can ever come to an agreement on a definition, nor
>> that we should, but I do feel that the values of openness and
>> decentralization should be taken into account when using the word
>> hacker.
>>
>> --
>> Marc Juul
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