[Noisebridge-discuss] Self Defense

[Shannon Lee]

Well, I think that rather than focusing on whether a particular activity is
"hacking" or not, we talk about whether it's an appropriate use of a venue
which exists to serve the needs of a community of hackers; and in my
experience, martial arts is definitely a Hacker Interest (tho mostly as
something hackers *know* about, rather than something hackers *do*
necessarily).

That said, there are lots of great martial arts studios in San Francisco --
some of the best Kung Fu and BJJ studios in the world, in fact, and quantum
martial arts is nice and friendly and right up at 20th and mission -- so it
seems redundant to teach homespun martial arts classes unless we can
genuinely come up with a serious "hacker spin" -- "self defense for pudgy,
under-muscled software engineers" for example...

I'd be interested in a western martial arts spin; and you can absolutely tie
that into hackerdom because it can double as LARP research :)

--S

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Forrest Flanagan
<solenoidclock at gmail.com>wrote:

> Padding and cross training, respectively.
>
> I just think it's a stretch to say that a thing which is studied, or even
> improved upon, is being hacked. I don't think it's accurate to say that
> practicing martial arts or even practicing variants that you think would
> work better could be called hacking. I don't think that using software on a
> graphing calculator or studying abacus use is a hack for mathematics either.
> There may be abacus and graphing calculator hacks, respectively, but math is
> still math just as defense is still defense.
>
> It's a crappy argument though, and it has nothing to do with whether or not
> people want to learn self defense at a hackerspace.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> One could hack martial arts to be less painful or combine multiple types
>> of martial arts to have a non lethal hand to hand combat system.   Just
>> saying.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Forrest Flanagan <
>> solenoidclock at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> How is this hacking? Like is he going to teach some techniques for
>>> incapacitating someone with a leatherman multi-tool or something? Maybe
>>> point out existing flaws in various martial arts techniques?
>>>
>>> "You see officer, he tried to social engineer me out of my wallet with a
>>> hacked beer bottle so I penetration tested his abdomen with these here wire
>>> strippers"
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 3:35 AM, seidos <kdemarest at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> is anyone interested in "self-defense" hacking?  i have a friend that
>>>> teaches Jujitsu, another friend that teaches Aikido, and i have had training
>>>> in tae kwan do and BJJ.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> with metta,
>>>>
>>>> seidos
>>>> http://accesstoinsight.org
>>>> http://fictionalphilosophy.org
>>>> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/seidos
>>>> http://launchpad.net/~seidos
>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Ronald Cotoni
>> Systems Engineer
>>
>>
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