[Noisebridge-discuss] bedbugs [action plan/pledge!]

[Danny O'Brien]

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Geoff Horne <horne at slc.com.au> wrote:
> For all of those of you who are over-engineering the Bed Bug solution. I
> offer the following Advice :
>
> 0) If you've never had bedbugs, you don't know how to get rid of them.
> Trust me on this. I've had bedbugs and 90% of theory doesn't work.
>
> Getting rid of Bed bugs is just like doing a security audit to get rid of a
> trojan stuck somewhere in the system. BE METHODICAL AND MISS NOTHING.
>
> 1) GET A SNIFFER DOG!! (http://www.scent-tek.com/). For the ~$250 it will
> cost to survey NB, they will find and confirm any source. (They work, and
> I've used them to save me a lot of time and pain)

Aestetix mailed me his sekr1t report and I'll say that while he's
positive they are around, I'd say that for me the evidence is
indicative but not conclusive. That said, I bet all the other
hackerspaces think we have the lurgy now, and if we do we should do
something about it, and if we don't have them, we should find a way to
get a special "nil bedbugs" sign to wave at everyone. This quantum
eigenbedbug state is troublesome.)

I called the sniffer dog guys and they quoted me $235-$350 (They
weren't sure: I gave them rough footage and the groundplans and they
said 'well that's certainly a unique space'. I  agreed with their
assessment).

They can be around within 24 hours usually.

As is traditional, I'm going to set up a pledge for getting them in
and collapsing the eizenbugs. Add your pledges on the wiki.  As soon
as we hit close to the total soon, I'll bring them over for tea.
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Bedbugs#Pledge

(As is also traditional, I'm also putting up using Noisebridge funds
for this at this weeks meeting, to be consensed next week.)

Aestetix I forgot to ask them whether smoke bombs will stymie the
dogs. I'll ask. If they do, would you wait off on the bombs until we
get them in? If we have bedbugs they'll be able to identify where we
should concentrate your bombs. (And also we will probably need a more
detailed plan of action if they do find them).

Scent dog trivia
============

People seem to think scent dogs are good at locating ze bugs. See
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Bedbugs#Detection

Mr Hoity-Toity New York Times, a place where bedbugs are now have
majorities in the state legislature, is a fashionably sceptical about
the efficacy of sniffer dogs - but these seems to be more about the
economic incentives than the dogs themselves (ie "yes our dogs say you
have bedbugs now pay $1000 for our extended bedbug cure service").

Our local Yelp *really* likes Scent Tek, and lots of the reviews are
from people who called in the dogs, and the dogs found nothing, which
seems to indicate that they are pretty honest. Also, the dogs
themselves blog on the site, which won me over.
http://www.yelp.com/biz/scent-tek-san-francisco-2










>
> If the dogs declare the place free of bugs you can relax and don't have to
> panic.
>
> 2) Traps, foggers etc aren't the solution. The chemicals don't kill the
> eggs, and the traps don't catch them. You need something better.
>
> 3) heating to 120 degrees only works if you heat EVERYTHING to 120 degrees.
> You would have to turn NB into a giant sauna to get this option to work.
> there are companies that can do it but the power bill alone would be very
> expensive.
>
> 4) An exterminator CANNOT FIX a place like NB. They will walk in and say
>   the following (after they stop laughing) :
>    "Yes, you probably have bedbugs"
>    "No, I can't guarantee to get rid of them 100%"
>    "Yes, you will have to throw out most of this crap"
>
> 5) Find the KNOWN SOURCES of the bugs and you have a chance of cleaning the
> place. Miss even ONE source and you are back to your starting point
>
> 6) BE VERY CAREFUL when you throw things out. Think "How can i move this
> without dropping eggs and bugs somewhere else"
>
> 7) RE_SCAN after you've done the cleanout. Wait 12 days for any eggs to
> hatch, Get the dogs back and confirm that you didn't screw it up.
>
> YMMV.
>
> good luck.
>
>
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