[Noisebridge-discuss] Paid for cleaners, have they ever come by the space?

Liz Henry liz at bookmaniac.org
Fri Nov 18 18:27:04 UTC 2011

On 11/17/11 1:38 AM, Duncan wrote:

> Unless Wish or Cynthia were being paid, I don't think we've had cleaners.
> I know I wasn't paid.
> Who be these cleaners, when did they show up, and what did they do?  Any
> witnesses?

Here's some advice for you Duncan.  If you want to mop or clean out of 
the goodness of your heart, but could use 10 bucks and are resentful 
that you're working for no pay?  Do the work, then go around the space 
and ask for a tip or personal donation for your efforts.   You are free 
to do that.  As everyone is.

If you are resentful that you cleaned sometimes, and that some random 
cleaner crew came over once a month for the last 3 months to mop and 
scrub the bathroom for pay because a meeting voted to experiment with 
that, then, my advice is that you should not do things you are resentful 
about.   Hopefully you can parse that sentence.

More advice unasked for.  The more you try to stir shit up on the list, 
and are confrontational while at the same time being both pedantic and 
wrong, the more people will not like to help you, interact with you, and 
so on at the space.

I can't take you seriously at all at this point. Especially after 
reading your heinous and stupid emails to treasurer at nb about "torr". 
(Someone needs to "accidentally" cc those to the whole list, btw.) 
However, if you want to mop the floor and can manage to do it without 
whining or acting like a total dick, feel free to ask me personally for 
money and I will pay you for doing the chores.

- Liz

Liz Henry
liz at bookmaniac.org

"Without models, it's hard to work; without a context, difficult to
evaluate; without peers, nearly impossible to speak." -- Joanna Russ

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