[Noisebridge-discuss] [Build] Wall idea for classroom

Mike Schachter mike at mindmech.com
Tue Nov 29 03:42:28 UTC 2011

The walls should be covered in whiteboard paint, and then
with equations.


On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com> wrote:
> I strongly oppose white walls. I think murals are best. Art everywhere!
> --S
> --
> Shannon Lee
> (503) 539-3700
> On Nov 28, 2011, at 19:02, jim <jim at systemateka.com> wrote:
>> i like the idea a lot other than that it's painted
>> on the walls. consider painting patterns on very
>> large sheets of paper or cardboard or cloth so that
>> it can be moved, either to allow the (white) wall
>> take a projector image or to move the image to some
>> other location.
>> On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 23:33 +0000, Ben Mushol wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I have had an idea for some time I would enjoy seeing implemented in the
>>> most appropriate area. The overall project would take a few days and I am
>>> seeking feedback.
>>> On of the classrooms could be painted gray. Superimposed over all of the
>>> walls (and preferably the ceiling but that may less feasible) would be
>>> reproductions of electronic schematics. The finished product could be
>>> finished with a matte sealer.
>>> Here are examples of the kinds of schematics I am thinking of:
>>> http://www.google.com/search?q=electronic+schematic&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=m7V&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=8hXUTounAqGQiAL0n9yODg&ved=0CEgQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=684#hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=anq&rl
>>> s=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ERbUTuz1AeLfiALincWSDg&ved=0CD4QvwUoAQ&q=electronic+schematic+oscilloscope&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=bbb32f800199826d&biw=1280&bih=684
>>> An oscilloscope seemed appropriate but if there are famous devices in
>>> electrical engineering and/or phreaking history in particular I seek
>>> references like that.
>>> Logistics of time and/or funds for enlargments can be worked out after
>>> feedback. I would see it through from start to finish and contribute
>>> whatever I can materially, labor is free :) Projectors could project the
>>> diagrams to be traced or enargements made at stinkos and traced with a
>>> pointed wheel and chalk (what is the name of that device?)
>>> Thoughts?
>>> On Mon, 28 Nov 2011, jim wrote:
>>>> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:15:21 -0800
>>>> From: jim <jim at well.com>
>>>> To: Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com>
>>>> Cc: build <build at lists.noisebridge.net>, Mike Schachter <mike at mindmech.com>,
>>>>    NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Build] [Noisebridge-discuss] Wall Status--paint hue
>>>>    choices--white-white is best
>>>>   as to painting, i'm guessing the 5 gallons of primer we
>>>> now have is PVA white.
>>>>   if we're gong to put a top coat over it, i recommend
>>>> white-white, which has the greatest index of reflectivity
>>>> (about 95%; the lightest off-white has 90%, and most very
>>>> light colors reflect less than 90% of the light, some
>>>> light and all medium saturated colors are in the 70s or
>>>> less).
>>>>   Not only do we get much more efficient use of lighting
>>>> with white-white, but we have much better control of color
>>>> in the space. note that a commitment to some hue (e.g. blue)
>>>> limits the possibilities of any decorations or alternate
>>>> colors in the space. white-white lets us put up the greatest
>>>> variety of posters and other colored objects without clumsy
>>>> color rhythms.
>>>> On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 10:13 -0800, Shannon Lee wrote:
>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>> I believe that the mudding is finished in Church; what's going to be
>>>>> needed in there is sanding and painting.  If you feel like
>>>>> contributing, grab some sand paper from the drawer in the shop and get
>>>>> to it!
>>>>> Warning: this is an incredibly dusty endeavor.
>>>>> --S
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Mike Schachter <mike at mindmech.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>        Hey Shannon, thanks to you and everyone else
>>>>>        for improving the space! I've been a long time
>>>>>        Church room enthusiast and was gonna use it
>>>>>        to give a little workshop tomorrow around 7pm,
>>>>>        but if it's in disarray I'd rather show up and help
>>>>>        out with something. So if there's a task I could
>>>>>        take on let me know. Like, what are some basic
>>>>>        things the Church room needs at this point, or
>>>>>        will by tomorrow night?
>>>>>         mike
>>>>>        On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Shannon Lee
>>>>>        <shannon at scatter.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Noisebridge,
>>>>>> The walls around both classrooms and the shop have been
>>>>>        extended to the
>>>>>> ceiling.
>>>>>> Sheetrocking is complete; mudding & taping was ongoing when
>>>>>        I left a couple
>>>>>> of hours ago, but everything was winding down, and I suspect
>>>>>        that it's done
>>>>>> for the night; when last I looked, Church and Turing were
>>>>>        mudded, and much
>>>>>> of the outside was mudded; the shop still needs to be mudded
>>>>>        inside and out.
>>>>>> I will likely not be back to this until this weekend, but
>>>>>        anyone else who
>>>>>> wants to mud is more than welcome to do so; and of course,
>>>>>        after mudding
>>>>>> comes sanding, and after sanding comes...
>>>>>> Painting:
>>>>>> We bought a 5 gallon bucket of primer, which I plan to put
>>>>>        up sometime,
>>>>>> maybe next weekend; but honestly, we really, really don't
>>>>>        need any more vast
>>>>>> expanses of white walls.  Someone who has a Vision of what
>>>>>        the walls should
>>>>>> look like, and the artistic skill to execute said vision,
>>>>>        should make them
>>>>>> be something other than white.  We really need some color on
>>>>>        those walls.
>>>>>> Murals are totally welcome, simple non-white color schemes
>>>>>        are equally
>>>>>> welcome, but someone for God's sake do something.
>>>>>> Power and Lights:
>>>>>> Turing and Church are without light.  The shop has the light
>>>>>        over the
>>>>>> central work bench, and during the day is well-served by its
>>>>>        skylight, but
>>>>>> at night it's very dark. The neon lighting which has been
>>>>>        serving the
>>>>>> classrooms and the shop was in two long banks of lights
>>>>>        which ran
>>>>>> continuously over the three rooms; they had to be broken up
>>>>>        in order to
>>>>>> allow for walls to be installed.  I understand that there's
>>>>>        a plan in place
>>>>>> to make the remaining lights light up; Jim even expressed a
>>>>>        revolutionary
>>>>>> idea whereby the lights in a particular room would be
>>>>>        controlled by a switch
>>>>>> *in that room* so that the people occupying the room could
>>>>>        control their
>>>>>> need for artifical light.
>>>>>> The power rail above the table in the shop is still powered;
>>>>>        the rail has
>>>>>> been removed from Church and Turing -- again, to make way
>>>>>        for walls.  Turing
>>>>>> is well-served by its own 20-amp circuit and a *lot* of
>>>>>        outlets at various
>>>>>> convenient leves; Chuch, however, currently has no power of
>>>>>        any kind.  I
>>>>>> believe there is a plot afoot to power it, as well as to
>>>>>        mount a projector
>>>>>> and projector screen back there.
>>>>>> If you'd like to be involved in getting power and lights
>>>>>        where power and
>>>>>> lights should go, I refer you to Jim's missive on the topic
>>>>>        in a previous
>>>>>> email thread, as well as to Jim, SuperQ and Miloh, who are
>>>>>        all variously
>>>>>> working on this stuff.
>>>>>> Doors:
>>>>>> Doors are needed for the shop, and possibly for Turing and
>>>>>        the Turing-Church
>>>>>> Intra-Classroom Door.  The big doorway leading to the shop
>>>>>        needs (ideally)
>>>>>> double swinging doors, of the type you find in restraunt
>>>>>        kitchen and
>>>>>> hospital settings; the other doors should all (in the best
>>>>>        of all possible
>>>>>> worlds) have portholes, or windows, or be made of glass,
>>>>>        because nobody
>>>>>> wants to have their class or meeting constantly interrupted
>>>>>        by people
>>>>>> opening the door to see if anybody's in there.  SuperQ is at
>>>>>        work on the
>>>>>> door problem; feel free to contact him.
>>>>>> Lots of people showed up this weekend to help out, more than
>>>>>        I can name
>>>>>> here, but including a one-armed Bandit, a small army of
>>>>>        purple-haired women,
>>>>>> and an stray 9-year-old girl who came in with her parents
>>>>>        after having heard
>>>>>> Mitch on NPR and was put to work mudding.  Kaya deserves a
>>>>>        special shout-out
>>>>>> for the use of her truck for hauling everything; Danny for
>>>>>        getting this
>>>>>> moving, and for paying for a lot of it; and Jurgen and Zack
>>>>>        for basic
>>>>>> unflappability.
>>>>>> As I said, many more people were involved to one extent or
>>>>>        another, and I
>>>>>> can think of at least one person whose name I've just flat
>>>>>        forgotten; thank
>>>>>> you to all of you for having shown up and Just Done It when
>>>>>        it needed to
>>>>>> Just Be Done.
>>>>>> There is more still to Just Do; if you want a task, just
>>>>>        ask, and one shall
>>>>>> be given.
>>>>>> --S
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Shannon Lee
>>>>>> (503) 539-3700
>>>>>> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from
>>>>>        science."
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>>>>> (503) 539-3700
>>>>> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science."
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