[Noisebridge-discuss] Prevent Diarrhea

Rameen emprameen at gmail.com
Sun Sep 11 13:29:32 UTC 2011


For fruit flies prevention is difficult. But reduction is easy!
Build this:
 http://i-cdn.apartmenttherapy.com/uimages/re-nest/7_8_2008-fruitfly2.jpg
Fill it with Vinegar.

A couple days in my house and one trap pretty much cleared out my problems.
I also took out the trash cleaned up any food out.



On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Just Duncan <justduncan at gmail.com> wrote:

> Based on a recent splash-back empirical data collected while cleaning the
> toilets, I think it would be an excellent idea to take some basic steps of
> prevention lest Noisebridge become a vector of transmission for whatever
> underlying bacteria, parasite, virus, or karma might be causing this.
>
> If you are able/willing to help implement the following-- or have
> additional ideas-- let's communicate and do!
>
> I'm starting with the fact-- that's not likely to change any time soon--
> that the kitchen area is located right outside the toilet areas.
>
> 1)That in mind, the most BASIC step would seem to be creating the tools
> that would encourage people to  WASH THEIR HANDS after using the toilet and
> BEFORE using the kitchen.  What would help, that I personally cannot afford
> or drive to pick up in bulk?
>
> -  A means of drying hands after washing in the bathrooms and kitchen.
> (Nick excellently bought 3 rolls of paper towels as a temp measure.  I'll
> buy a wall mounted paper town dispenser for the kitchen after work today at
> The Container Store.)   Paper towels have been DESPERATELY absent for the
> past couple of weeks, though I can confirm to Al that his irrelevant,
> archaic sign about "Why not...wipe down the sink?" remains up and
> undefacated... I mean defaced.  Personally, I feel wiping down the toilet
> rim and underside of the toilet seat BEFORE washing one's hand's would be
> more excellent, but, again, definitions of "clean" apparently vary.
>
>     It would be REALLY cool to find and fix or make a hand-dryer, though it
> may not make sense if the electricity cost differential is significant.
>
>     A cloth towel, as is in 1.0, may actually just exacerbate the problem,
> not prevent it.
>
> - Dishwasher Soap -  We've got a little left, but will be out quiet
> shortly.  The past few days we've removed the disintegrated drying racks and
> have encouraged people to RINSE dishes THOROUGHLY and then put them in the
> dishwasher and running it to sterilize them, as we've observed that the
> definition of "cleaning your dishes and eating utensils" varies greatly in
> practice.
>
> - Hand soap for the two bathrooms, large pump bottle preferred so it
> doesn't fall easily on the floor or into the sink.  Gallon of refill would
> be MOST excellent.
>
> - A GIANT pump bottle of hand disinfectant in the kitchen to augment the
> sign I'm going to put up suggesting that people wash their hands.  Gallon of
> refill would be most excellent.
>
> - A GIANT bottle of DAWN dish washing soap.  This is one of the few
> products where other brands and generics just don't cut the grease nearly as
> effectively.  If animal rescuers use it exclusively to clean wildlife after
> an oil spill, that says something to me.  Gallon of refill would be MOST
> excellent.
>
> - SPONGES, preferably with one side being gently abrasive.  The ones we
> have are falling apart.  BTW, microwaving a wet sponger for 60 seconds does
> a pretty good job in disinfecting it.
>
> Additionally, is anyone besides me interested in figuring out how to
> replace the uber-cool edging around the kitchen counter?  Yes, I know it was
> applied with cold plasma and the look from afar is wicked butch, but in
> terms of kitchen counter practicality and cleaning/hygiene it simply sucks
> (and not in the good way).  More specifically, wiping down the counter and
> brushing debris over the edge into one's waiting hand is impossible.
> Likewise, the cold fusion is failing in places and food particles are
> caught, attracting...
>
> FRUIT FLIES!
>
> -  These are and have grown steadily as a problem in the kitchen area of
> Noisebridge over the past couple of months.  In great frustration, I'm going
> to point out the giant grey box labelled in yellow "Random Cable &" on top
> of the cabinets above the conventional ovens.  Inside is a several month
> project to make banana vinegar, a process that crucially involves the
> larvae(?) or some other secretion/by-product of reproducing fruit flies...
> akin to "honey comb"? for bees.  Although the large open mason jars are
> covered with stretched cloth/rubber band and Francisco assured everyone that
> it wouldn't attract fruit flies, my 3-month experience at NB-- which began
> prior to the project's start-- leaves me wholly unconvinced.  And, NO, the
> plastic tub is NOT covered.
>
>    This is one of those things that either no one wants to help me relocate
> (to the roof?) or deal with.  I've been told "yeah, we're doing something
> about that tomorrow" too many times to believe it.  I'm restraining my
> impulses to "do-ocracy" until Wednesday morning. :-)
>
> -  All the blooms and roses brought daily by Wish into the kitchen area
> that unhappily wilt, die, and decay here... something fruit flies seem to
> love.  First, having had a mother whose hobbyist passion was growing roses
> to enjoy on the bush, I'm wondering the excellency of how these
> roses/flowers are being picked.  Secondly, I think NB's kitchen can
> sacrifice color for the sake of hygiene.  Finally, with all their thorns,
> disposing of them is rather painful.    Is there any great object to a sign
> putting flowers and floating blossoms on hiatus?
>
> LASTLY... is anyone actually USING the compost we collect that serves as an
> additional breeding area for fruit flies?  If not, can someone convince me
> why not using the technology to quickly exit fruit fly fodder from the
> Noisebridge space instead (i.e. the waste disposal we have)?  San Francisco
> is going to remove the results from the sewage whether we contribute to it
> or not and it's all organic anyway, just hastening the circle of life.
> Please note I am NOT putting mice down the disposal.
>
> Off to work, but THANK YOU!
>
> Duncan
>
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