[Noisebridge-discuss] Enlightenment & its discontents (response to Rachel, Jim, Frantisek et al)

[Tony Longshanks LeTigre]

On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 12:31 PM, rachel lyra hospodar
<rachelyra at gmail.com>wrote:

>
> Regrets for any lack of clarity around the way I read nb-discuss, some
> more details and some thoughts on why I shared the fact of the filtering:
>

I read your whole response in a thoughtful way. I understand now! And I
thought I belonged to a lot of mailing lists. I am humbled. Especially
since I've taken virtually no measures to organize & classify mine the way
you have.

 For example, I have six
> or seven arduino and microcontroller-specific mailing lists that all
> sort into one shared folder.  This way, when I am working on
> electronics or seeking to delve into the topic further, I have one
> really rich place where all those email inputs are collected.  It is
> interesting to me the way this creates a psychologically real 'bounded
> space' that is functionally identical to a room full of people.
>

I am LOL-ing at the image of living in a mansion where every room is filled
w/ people who are experts on a certain topic! Those people are always in
those rooms, mostly standing for some reason in my imagination, talking
very animatedly about the subject at hand nonstop at all hours of every
day, some holding coffee mugs or cocktails....of course it would be
complicated since some people would have to exist in more than one room at
the same time, which is kind of Star Trek/Celestials territory....my
mansion would have a squatting/housing activism room, a lit nerd room, a
room full of Radical Faeries Feyboys & other such glitterfolk, a room of
elves hobbits & Tolkien nuts, a room full of horor-film fanatics, a
zinester room (heck, the zinesters would need a *pavilion*), & many more....


>
> I put sustainability interest groups and lists together, small
> business & neighborhood localization lists together, etc.  I actually
> send nb-discuss, nb-announce, and all of my noisebridge sublists to
> the same folder.  Which I read regularly.
>

I do of course regard you as one of the notable presences on the NB-Discuss
list, I didn't mean to suggest otherwise.


> I wish I thought that you had noticed this congruency,
> instead of this sentence reading to me as a piece of advice.  But hey,
> maybe it's not even advice or maybe it's advice that is not directed
> at me, and you are agreeing with me and stating your good opinion of
> my solution.
>

Indeed I am! And I hereby clarify that my "purrrhaps" was no more than a
lazy affirmation or restatement of your original aims as stated.

*Mike Schachter said:*
I'm also sorry to see so many people not support her suggestion for
Noisebridge to adopt any sort of anti-harassment statement. I really
don't see how anything negative could come of doing so.

I have a response to this I need to formulate, it has something to do w/
being involved with HomesNotJails for a year now & seeing both the
positives & difficulties that seem to result from their Anti-Oppression
policy. And it has something to do with my intense hatred of censorship,
which is possibly even stronger than my hatred of bigotry & oppressive
behavior. Unfortunately this response requires more thought & careful
wording than I can give it atm, but I'll try to revisit this very soon. It
is something that's on my mind a lot.

*Frantisek admitted* to sleeping at NB "7 to 10 times" in his own
estimation, after hypocritically complaining about someone else sleeping in
the space.

I've encountered hypocrisy on this very issue before. I can't stand that
kind of hypocrisy. Dude, *don't* be that guy! Wake that part of your
conscience up & don't let it go to sleep again, ever. Put it on a caffeine
IV if you have to.

I just heard a song that will make excellent background music for when this
discussion -- intitiated by Rachel -- finally resolves itself into a
harmonious growth experience & heightened level of consciousness for the
whole community! I loved this song when I was....14 or something....and
actually, it holds up pretty well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MclSSoOBt3Q

"Longshanks"
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