[Noisebridge-discuss] [drama] also [actual action] Re: Cynthia and "Asian" Reference

Matt Joyce matt at nycresistor.com
Sat Feb 4 00:06:42 UTC 2012

As a male I'd like to suggest that we males are concerned as well
about our own safety in the presence of uncaring feminists who
ridicule us and place us at the forefront of some form of conspiracy
to place women in kitchens.

I am quite frankly distraught over the shear volume of passive
aggressive assaults on my gender on this list and in society today in

Quite frankly I don't give a damn about your genitals people.  If you
want to run around judging people because of their genitals that's on
you.  But please don't lump me into some sort of ridiculous conspiracy
to join you in your judging just because my dangle has a measurable

Gender equality starts with ending feminism.

Let my people go!


On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
> I'm not going to entertain everyone tweedling you into atoms until you
> put $5 into the drama meter, Peter. Noisebridge gots to pay that
> feminazi-geld somehow!
> On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 02:58:19PM -0800, Peter Werner wrote:
>> Danny O'Brien wrote:
>>     I'm not sure you actually realise how large of an intersection there is
>>     between the people who organize and speak at Arse Electronica and those who
>>     developed the (templated) suggestions for the anti-harrasment policy.
>> Well then, I guess they have a rather large contradiction on their hands, don't
>> they?
>>     Obviously, it'd be far easier for the outrage if they were carefully
>>     arranged on two sides of some gaping cultural divide, but actually you can
>>     be simultaneously for developing reasonable anti-harassment policies *and*
>>     sex positivity *and* freedom of speech.
>> Might be. Pity the Geek Feminist policy template does such an utterly piss-poor
>> job of it. And small clue here, calling for a ban on a ban on a very broad
>> category of imagery as default policy and then demanding adoption of that
>> policy at practically all public spaces raises fucking huge free speech issues.
>> Oh, and "we're sex positive/anarchists/feminsts/whatever, therefore we can't be
>> censors" sets off my bullshit detector big time.
>>     It'd be pretty easy to knock out an anti-harassment variant for Arse or an
>>     all-night hummus fucking party; those square brackets are there for a
>>     reason. Probably a slightly better reason than your use of scare quotes
>>     around a group of people you interact with on a regular basis.
>> Oh dear, somebody's quite butthurt now, aren't they? Look, I interact with
>> people who I think have damn fool ideas all the time. And as long as they're
>> not imposing their perspective on me or vice versa, there's not a problem.
>> People demanding their pet ideologies gain the force of a rule I have to abide
>> by is another matter, and I will speak up about it.
>> Peter
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