[Noisebridge-discuss] Entry & Security

jim jim at systemateka.com
Sun Feb 12 17:33:35 UTC 2012



    an "oogle" or a "bad oogle"? 
    in other words, does oogle have a more general 
meaning, someone who's not a hacker or interested 
but comes to ogle (not necessarily lecherously)? 




On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 02:40 -0800, girlgeek wrote:
> Sleeping   or being not excellent.  Those are the qualities that
> define someone as an oogle.
> 
> 
> On 2/11/2012 5:42 PM, Gopiballava Flaherty wrote: 
> > Why do we want them gone? What are they doing that is a problem?
> > 
> > Thanks, 
> > 
> > 
> > gopi at iPhone
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Feb 11, 2012, at 17:58, girlgeek <girlgeek at wt.net> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > >       * Some oogles have keys
> > >       * Sometimes an oogle gate surfs in
> > >       * One oogle lets another oogle in
> > >       * Some good hearted soul lets an oogle in.
> > > 
> > > The video is wonderful for slowing all this down, but how do we
> > > get oogles out once they are in?
> > > -Claudia
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 2/11/2012 1:23 PM, Brink of Complexity wrote: 
> > > > > we already have an intercom.  it's useless.
> > > > > 
> > > > > you ask who is there, and the person invariably answers something smartass.  it's a waste of time.
> > > > I fail to understand why this impedes ability to converse with said smartass until they are authenticated... just the same as would be done at the top of the stairs, only before the gate is opened.
> > > > 
> > > > Perhaps it would be useful to include this in the social protocol for buzzing people up?  
> > > > 
> > > > - Brink
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > On Fri, 10 Feb 2012, Brink of Complexity wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Has an intercom option already been discussed, or did I miss something?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Even an automated intercom would be cool -- a robot voice that replies to the buzzer with "Welcome to Noisebridge. What will you hack today?" , allowing the visitor's response to be audible to anyone in the vicinity of the upstairs gate button before they are buzzed in, and the possibility of continuing a two-way conversation at the discretion of the people upstairs.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > - Brink
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Feb 10, 2012, at 5:17 PM, Jake wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > the answer to your very valid question is that at least with the video at
> > > > > > > the door, people can make an informed decision whether to let someone in
> > > > > > > or not.  If the person looking at the monitor decides that it's a fine
> > > > > > > time to invite a young oogle with his backpack & dog into the space, they
> > > > > > > can decide to buzz them in.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > if the person in the space doesn't think it's a good time, because there
> > > > > > > were recently problems with that sort of thing, they have the option of
> > > > > > > deciding not to buzz the person in.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ants, being very social creatures, have a great method for deciding what
> > > > > > > food to bring home.  When an ant finds a food they like, they bring it
> > > > > > > home (in their stomach) and leave a trail of tiny deposits of the food
> > > > > > > leading back to where they found it.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > When an ant is leaving the nest in search of food, they can sample the
> > > > > > > various trails leading away from the nest and use their own judgement as
> > > > > > > to which trails to follow, or which to ignore.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > We at noisebridge have the option to do the same;  make our own decisions
> > > > > > > about who we let in, based on our own judgement and knowledge.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > By the way, please remember that the alternative to the video monitor is
> > > > > > > having ZERO visual information about who is buzzing the door.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > IT COULD BE THE COPS.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -jake
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Claudia wrote:
> > > > > > > Excluding the couple of people who have been ostracized by consesus
> > > > > > > meeting......
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > In the history of Noisebridge how many people have been refused entry?
> > > > > > > My guess is maybe 2.
> > > > > > > What about video at the door is going to convince anyone upstairs to
> > > > > > > refuse entry to a young oogle with his backpack & dog in tow?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -Claudia
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