[Noisebridge-discuss] Upstairs door latch mechanism?

Tom L lists at flamsmark.com
Mon Feb 13 13:56:15 UTC 2012

Do not let someone into Noisebridge unless you are comfortable taking
responsibility for their actions. This means that you should only let in
someone you know and trust, unless you are willing to take the time to
introduce yourself to them and them to Noisebridge, give them a tour, and
teach them about our ways.

Anyone is welcome to become part of the Noisebridge community. This does
not mean that everyone is welcome to come in at any time and do any thing,
especially if their actions make the space less hospitable for others.
There are some obvious sorts of actions that are unacceptable in any social
space but few people act like that, and they are swiftly removed. The more
general source of entropy is folks who aren't sufficiently introduced to
Noisebridge, and don't understand what we're for.

We're open to any people who want to become part of our distinct micro
society, but if you don't want to become part of Noisebridge's society, you
are not welcome to continue using Noisebridge. The fact that many newcomers
don't know this and aren't aware of our norms and decision-making processes
is our fault. It's our fault for blindly pushing the buzzer and inviting
people in without word or comment, giving the impression that Noisebridge
is a place come and go as you please, and do what you want, without

This is not about trying to classify people into certain categories of
desirable and undesirable based on how they look, it's about asking
everyone to Be Excellent. Excellence is not a low bar; it is not merely the
absence of living at Noisebridge, and resisting the ongoing urge to harm
your fellow hacker. Excellence is treating Noisebridge as something to be
treasured, working to be part of our community, and doing great things here.

If you silently open the door without teaching a newcomer how much you care
for Noisebridge, and how incredibly important to you personally it it that
they Be Excellent here, you are harming Noisebridge, and that is not
Excellent, it's far, far from it.

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:52 PM, jim <jim at systemateka.com> wrote:

>    It seems you're presuming things about persons using
> the buzzer. How many people who use the buzzer should be
> let in? Seems like "most", to me, based on the people
> I've seen come in that way.
>    How many people shouldn't? How can anyone say? Who
> knows who might "come around" to a hacker's head?
>    And if they don't? What's bad?
> On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 17:12 -0800, Jake wrote:
> > This is exactly why it's easier to turn someone away by not buzzing the
> > gate open, than it is to let them in and come all the way up the stairs
> > and then try to turn them back.
> >
> > If someone presses the button at the gate and nothing happens, they have
> > no one to be mad at, and they have not already gone up two flights of
> > stairs toward their destination.  No big deal, they will proceed to some
> > other place to hang out.
> >
> > -jake
> >
> > David Estes wrote:
> > > Right, and I am decidedly /not/ a big guy. Imagine me trying to have
> > > that conversation, but on the street outside the gate. I don't think it
> > > would have gone well.
> >
> > Rachel Lyra wrote:
> > I've done this, at 3am. someone sort of followed me there from a party
> > (incidentally one where they had to eject one of our homeless residents
> > for drunkenness).  I'm a smallish female, although i usually wear baggy
> > clothes and boots.  It wasn't fun but it worked out ok.  I'm pretty
> > assertive though.
> >
> > Since our constituency of preferred users includes many people who would
> > be uncomfortable with this type of confrontation, we probably want to
> > help deal with that!  I think that the more complicated it looks to get
> > in, the easier it would be to tell a person trying to follow you in that
> > they are not authorized for entry.  By creating a ridiculous rube
> > goldberg of Entry we can create a Flying Spaghetti Monster type
> > authority to appeal to when denying someone entry.  THE SCIENCE-DEITIES
> >
> > R.
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